Whenever I try the chaingrab into spike combo it doesn't quite work. I'm against Bowser, so I know he's heavy enough. He grabs onto the edge before I can spike him. How will I get it? Just keep practicing or something. Also, what percentages would be ideal and if you have the oppurtunity to grab them again when they're off the edge should you? Or just proceed straight into the spike?
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Falco Chaingrab Spiking Question
- Thread starter neji49
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MyRevenge.
Smash Journeyman
Maybe you need to grab closer to the edge, or maybe off the edge like you said... and make sure you shot hop the spike...
I'm not really an expert at it either but I've been able to do it quit well...
BTW, are you still using dthrow as ur final grab or fthrow?
I'm not really an expert at it either but I've been able to do it quit well...
BTW, are you still using dthrow as ur final grab or fthrow?
CG to spike doesn't work. don't be greedy, take the free fsmash or usmash when you're done with the CG.
It's all with dthrow, don't finish with fthrow.
It's all with dthrow, don't finish with fthrow.
Just make sure your grabbing them above the end of the ledge ( so the opponent basicaly has no floor under him). d-throw then quickly short hop into a D-air while DIing to the right and its done... try it on ganondorf first or someone big on training mode at about 40% then go on to other characters.
W.Jr
Smash Lord
i know most of this, but still good useful info
redgreenblue
Smash Ace
Okay well... it's just chaingrabbing until you throw them off the ledge, then when bowser or whoever is almost at Falco's short hop level, short hop and dair into them of the ledge. I did this on a kirby yesterday, so I'll try and get a recording of it up soon.
Spudnick
Smash Apprentice
yeah, make sure you use the c-stick so you don't accidentally fast fall down with him. Also, right after you do the d-air start doing your DI towards your opponent.
redgreenblue
Smash Ace
You DI back to the stage... so you don't fall and die. It's just common logic. Use your c-stick if you're having trouble executing your dair while DIing.
Ayato
Smash Apprentice
Unless you change the controller setup, you will fastfall when you hit down on the C-stick. If you're at the peak of your jump and you hit the C-stick down, it fast falls automatically now. Lame, yeah. This should be executed quickly though, so if you're even moderately fast with your thumbs you should be able to dair before you hit the peak anyway. Fastfalling is not an issue here.
Edit: By "change your controller setup" I mean changing the c-stick to "attack" instead of "smash." I haven't tested it myself, but I hear that changing it to that corrects the fast fall problem.
redgreenblue
Smash Ace
The DI for doing it is kind of a full circle... just imagine that the direction you DI is like a rubber band attached to Falco from the stage, and you are DIing towards the start of that elastic.
Well I've come to two conclusions. My target is below my short hop level my the time I'm in position for the spike. This means either my fingers are too slow. Or I try to jump while the chaingrab's lag hasn't worn off and that delays the reaction. Is it possible for the second one?If so when will the lag from the chaingrab wear off? If it isn't, well I guess it's back to training for me. Thanks for all the help by the way. 
I really need it.
I really need it.