Smash Wii U End User Agreement question

[Joe73191]

I'm not exactly sure where to put this, but here it goes. Recently a new End User Agreement came out for the Wii U which had to be accepted in order to continue using the Wii U in any functional way. I do not own a Wii U yet, but was thinking of getting one for Smash for Wii U. My question is does this new Agreement in any way prohibit the potential future modding of Smash for Wii U?

I don't care what people think of my opinion of potentially modding the game. I'm asking you to look at the user agreement and give me your interpretation of it. Leave your flaming, negative and bashing comments to yourself.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...onsoles-unless-owners-agree-to-new-eula.shtml

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/...wii-u-hostage-until-you-agree-new-legal-terms

These are two articles referring to the Agreement in question.

 

[Nielicus]

Why the **** are people talking about modding the game, it didn't even come out yet. Give it a ****ing chance, got damn LOL!

 

[Xermo]

The WII U itself hasn't even been hacked. How would anyone know if this prohibits modding a game who's exploits don't even exist yet.

also P:M for the wii-u is never happening.

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

Nintendo doesn't exactly approve of modding, and with the way they developed the Wii U, I don't think we'll see anything big and widespread.

Also Project M is mostly possible due to a stage builder glitch as far as I'm aware. I don't have the mod, but I do hear a lot about it from friends. The PM team apparently just got lucky with an exploit, which probably won't exist in the Wii U version. I'm no expert, but the only solution left would be hacking at this point, right? According to some Mario Kart 8 hackers, it's not really an easy process.

So, yeah. You're gonna be buying Smash Wii U for Smash Wii U. I say you give the game a chance to stand on it's own two feet. Or sit in the disk drive. I dunno.

 

[Joe73191]

Thank you Smash_Veteran for at least giving a respectful response. I appreciate your input.

 

[Raijinken]

Unfortunately, none of the links you posted have a copy of the EULA, and as I don't yet own a U, I haven't seen it myself (I'm also too lazy to further search for it online, since everyone knows only people looking to pick on big companies using extremely common wording and methods in their EULAs would actually read a EULA).

That said, it is, in the vast majority of cases, always discouraged (though rarely enforced) for you to mod software, unless (as is often the case with PC games but virtually never the case for console games) the company/game directly and deliberately supports such mods. That said, Nintendo has had a pretty mixed history with mods, hacks, and the like in the past.

In short, the final answer is "Mod at your own risk". The simplest way to ensure your modding stays unnoticed and whatnot is to keep your device off the internet and out of Nintendo's prying eyes. System updates in general often aim to remove or cover mod/hack loopholes, and as such, aren't conducive to modding to begin with. Whether or not they're prohibited, Nintendo IS very dead-set on maintaining complete control over all content for their systems, so if you intend to mod your system, you will likely be most successful if you do not take it online. Ever.

Alternately, if modding is that important to you and you ALSO like to keep your games up to date and whatever else, then if you can afford to do so, get one console for modding, and one for actual play.

 

[Themandme]

If you don't agrre it bricks your system

 

[Smash_Veteran_Amtoj]

If you don't agrre it bricks your system

No it doesn't. You just can't do anything until you agree.

 

[Joe73191]

In short, the final answer is "Mod at your own risk". The simplest way to ensure your modding stays unnoticed and whatnot is to keep your device off the internet and out of Nintendo's prying eyes. System updates in general often aim to remove or cover mod/hack loopholes, and as such, aren't conducive to modding to begin with. Whether or not they're prohibited, Nintendo IS very dead-set on maintaining complete control over all content for their systems, so if you intend to mod your system, you will likely be most successful if you do not take it online. Ever.

I don't want to mod the Wii U at all if I can help it. Just a game for the Wii U, if a mod I like becomes available.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/info/en_na/docs.jsp

You can read the full end user license agreement by clicking Wii U then clicking End User License Agreement, on the right hand side. Also know that you can not use the Wii U in any functional way until you agree to this.

 

[Khao]

Nintendo has never "allowed" mods of any kind.

Even if the user agreement says "By signing this ****, you're agreeing that you'll go to jail for two hundred ****ing years while being tortured every day and fed nothing but feces if you add, use, or even think about any unauthorized custom content or software modifications on Super Smash Bros for Wii U." nothing has really changed.

 

[Raijinken]

"You may not publish, copy, modify, reverse engineer, lease, rent, decompile, or disassemble any portion of the Software, or bypass, modify, defeat, tamper with, or circumvent any of the functions or protections of your Wii U, unless otherwise permitted by law."

That means "No modding things" unless local laws say so.

But like Khao said, it's unlikely that Nintendo has a way to tell or enforce that. It DOES say they'll, for lack of better words, brick the system if you mod it, but most mods are well-done enough to avoid detection like that (though Nintendo does seem to be improving on that regard, for better or worse). However, legally speaking, they can't punish you for modding.