empty short hop slide

[zeta]

Hey everyone

After an empty short hop falco appears to be able slide into a grab or f tilt. I've been using it to bait out attacks then going in for either.

It works best out of a short hop in which you flip back. So facing away from you opponent short hop toward your opponent, land, hold toward your opponent and press grab

Also if you notice your opponent not teching, f throw to 4 lasers works on several characters, usually around the high 30's to 60's and really easy against larger characters like bowser/dedede.

Some experimenting in training mode showed these initial f throw to laser percentages

Mario didn’t work
Luigi didn’t work
Peach didn't work
Bowser 43
Yoshi 38
Rosalina 36
Bowser jr. 38
Wario 39
DK 53
Diddy 60
GW 32
Little mac 33

 

[Soshii]

Sounds like Tomahawking.

 

[zeta]

Sounds like Tomahawking.

quick google search on tomahalking yes the concept is the same but falco appears to glide into it. It might be my imagination but his grab range seems to be slightly increased.