"EASY WAYS TO LASERLOCK- this is super gay and amazing" by Mew2King

[NJzFinest]

http://allisbrawl.com/forum/topic.aspx?pid=35659#p35659

EASY WAYS TO LASERLOCK

1) 2nd hit of falco's Nair
2) F tilt
3) Dair (more specific to set up)
4) ledge get up attack

those are the 4 best ways to get your opponent on the ground to laserlock them

I figured this out last night. Hit them with the last hit of Falco's Nair, and then shoot ground lasers right away, and then you have an EASY LASERLOCK on people! It's amazing, and very easy to do too, I told this to Vidjo last night and he did it right away to his friends several times. Obviously you can get out by DIing or air dodging or teching, but many times people won't do them, and they are screwed after that.

*** THIS ALSO WORKS WITH FALCO'S FORWARD TILT, it's arguably even easier with F tilt but you need to wait longer to start it. ***

*** DAIR ALSO WORKS, BUT ONLY ON FAST FALLING AND HEAVY CHARACTERS ***

Get up attack also works. So that's Nair, F tilt, and Dair and Get up attack that are the 4 easiest ways to start it, pretty much in that order of usefulness, with Nair and F tilt being the most practical (it varies on the character's falling speed too, although the Nair and F tilt are more likely to work as it hits them horizontally and are easier to set up). Down smash probably won't work often unless they don't react well or something.

OBVIOUSLY some characters (esp. Jigglypuff) you are never going to get this to work, as they are in the air too long, but most characters this works on, especially if they DI away.


These are the %s that each of these moves knocks the opponent over (tested in training mode). The left side is F tilt, the middle is Falco's Nair, and the right side is Falco's Dair.

80 54 42 Bowser

78 53 41 DK

77 52 40 Snake

77 52 40 DDD

76 51 39 Charizard

76 51 39 Ganon

75 51 39 Samus

75 51 39 Wario
75 51 39 Yoshi

74 50 39 ROB

74 50 38 Ike *Can't Laserlock from F tilt around 74-76 cuz he falls too fast assuming you kind of spaced the F tilt, but after that you can

74 50 38 C.Falcon *same exact as above
74 50 38 Link *can't start laserlock from F tilt until 83%+ (but if you wait too long he will go too high and will be able to easily double jump)

73 49 38 Wolf

72 49 37 Lucario
72 49 37 Ivysaur

71 48 37 Mario *LASERLOCK DOESN'T WORK

71 48 36 Luigi *LASERLOCK DOESN'T WORK

70 48 36 Sonic *LASERLOCK USUALLY WON'T WORK

70 47 36 Pit
70 47 36 Ness
70 47 36 Lucas

69 47 35 Diddy

69 47 35 Toon Link
69 47 35 ICs *NANA WILL STOP THE LASERLOCK QUICKLY

68 46 35 Peach

67 45 34 Marth

66 45 33 Zelda
66 45 33 Sheik

65 44 33 Falco
65 44 33 Olimar

64 44 32 ZSS *LASERLOCK USUALLY WON'T WORK

64 44 32 Fox

64 43 32 Pikachu
64 43 32 Metaknight

63 43 32 Kirby

62 42 31 GW
62 42 31 Squirtle

59 40 29 Jigglypuff





other people that you can infinite include ICs Ice Blocks (Chu did this in tourney after down throw -> nana Fair at like I think 30%+ or so), Pikachu jabs (after Nair?), Metaknight down tilt (after weak nair or on slopes maybe?) Squirtle Jabs (after fair/bair?), Link jabs (after boomerang), Mario jabs (after Nair, but Luigi jabs don't seem to work), Sonic jabs (after Nair), Ness jabs (after you dair them from the air into the ground, I dunno), Kirby jabs (after a close up B so the last hit of final cutter misses), and Jigglypuff jabs (after aerials). Samus works too (her jabs don't hit low though) and so does Olimar in a corner, I dunno what else does.




also I might as well say this here too; here are the %s for Mario's Nair, and Sonic's Nair, to knock people over (Mario on left, Sonic on right)

Here's the %s for Mario's Nair, and Sonic's Nair, to knock people over (Mario on left, Sonic on right)

45 43 Bowser
44 42 DK
44 42 Snake
43 41 DDD
43 41 Charizard
43 41 Ganon
42 40 Samus
42 40 Wario
42 40 Yoshi
42 40 ROB
42 40 Ike
41 39 C.Falcon
41 39 Link
41 39 Wolf
40 38 Lucario
40 38 Ivysaur
40 38 Mario
40 38 Luigi
39 37 Sonic
39 37 Pit
39 37 Ness
39 37 Lucas
39 37 Diddy
38 36 Toon Link
38 36 ICs
38 36 Peach
37 35 Marth
37 35 Zelda
37 35 Sheik
36 34 Falco
36 34 Olimar
36 34 ZSS
35 34 Fox
35 33 Pikachu
35 33 Metaknight
35 33 Kirby
34 32 GW
34 32 Squirtle
32 31 Jigglypuff

Try it

 

[Vro]

He also posted this on smashboards, scrub. =p

Turns out I'm not going to Purdue, fyi. Columbia in Chicago.

 

[NJzFinest]

Lame Vro so we'll never see you again?

 

[Vro]

I'll come visit. Maybe I'll brush up on Melee too =). I still need to sit up my **** wifi..

 

[Skazryk]

Are there any vids of this all working out?

 

[Jiggy]

So pointless >.<


If you can't defeat your opponent the regular way, might as well find out how to play a different game -_-

(Just my opinion of laser-locking... no offense to anyone who's in love with the "strategy")

 

[Unseen_Killa]

How is this not defeating your opponent the regular way? Once you get to the ledge you'll fall off.

Sure, you can trap your opponents against walls, but this isn't the only character that can do that.

However, it does seem super gay and amazing. I can't wait to test it out.

 

[sonic boy]

nice ill try it

 

[NJzFinest]

So pointless >.<


If you can't defeat your opponent the regular way, might as well find out how to play a different game -_-

(Just my opinion of laser-locking... no offense to anyone who's in love with the "strategy")

So, you mean... playing to win =/= regular way?

 

[Vro]

Unless something is deemed as broken by a community of players or the tournament host, playing to win is the same thing as playing.

In regards to laser lock tho.. it's very situational, but broken.

 

[Mr.Trite]

I found that I had to angle the ftilt down in order to get the knockdown to set it up.

I'm supposed to do that right? >_>

 

[Azuro]

So pointless >.<


If you can't defeat your opponent the regular way, might as well find out how to play a different game -_-

(Just my opinion of laser-locking... no offense to anyone who's in love with the "strategy")

The power of sirlin.net compels you. You, my son, need to be taught in the art of "Asobi-Tame-Shouri", aka "Playing To Win".

 

[OmegaXF]

incredibly gay....

 

[ThreeX]

So pointless >.<


If you can't defeat your opponent the regular way, might as well find out how to play a different game -_-

(Just my opinion of laser-locking... no offense to anyone who's in love with the "strategy")

lol? this is what brawl is about... brawl is about camping, playing defensive... that is basically the "regular way" so, idk what your talking about.


(that is the reason i give up on this game )

 

[zzzzzzzzzz]

could someone post a vid of this?i am not sure how the set up works, only laser lock vids i have seen came from up smash and does not look very useful.

 

[Crizthakidd]

its sooo god dam easy lol YOU JUST FTILT. do you know how to f-titlt? FOWARD YOUR TILT lol they go on ground n u start shootin ya lazars

 

[OmegaXF]

Well when it comes down to it, it is all about who wins lol... We play to win and have fun......Thats so 80's lolol

 

[Rampage]

This is unbelievably gay...Thank you M2K and thank you NJ for showing this to me