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Destructoid Writer Jonathan Holmes: "M2K and Armada are impatient control freaks"

Hippieslayer

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Recently Destructoid write Jonathan Holmes expressed his love for tripping, feeling sorry that the feature would not make it into the next instance of Smash Bros. After people pointed out to him that he had no idea what he was talking about the guy went on to make another article wherein he publicly insults M2K and Armada, calling them "edgy" and "impatient control freaks", why? Because they said the thought lessened landing lag would make SSB4 a better game as it would encourage usage of Aerials.

Here is the article: http://www.destructoid.com/two-pros-are-edgy-about-slight-landing-lag-in-smash-bros-4-277991.phtml

Here is the man:

 
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A little obsessive? Really? Those comments made by both M2K and Armada were quite light, especially in comparison to the fulsome depth they could have gone into.

Obsessed with being in control of their characters, impatient during even a split second before they can move again, and always hungry for more tension?
Obsessed with being in control of their characters...I know that's a lot to ask of a fighting game. Furthermore, it sounds like this guy has barely seen any of Melee or PM, really. So yes, when you don't L-cancel, or have the ability to autocancel something, yes, that gives you an advantage and makes the player better. Smash 4 doesn't look dull by any means, but the way he's referring to tension here is a little callous. The majority of players like Melee and PM's slick, faster style in comparison to Brawl's more defensive-oriented gameplay. And it's more fun to watch a match where a slight mistake could take a stock, versus a game where you could cancel out of hitstun.

I mean, it's not to say many players of this series are obsessive, but it's because we have to be to get better. I think golf is boring as hell to watch, but there's more going on there than someone just hitting the ball and it landing nicely. There's the general feel of the club, which club you like to use, which brand of club you like to use, what to do in certain terrain, the fact that different courses have different kinds of grass, and other qualities such as how much power you hit the ball with and being able to emulate hitting the ball a set distance reliably. So you could say golfers are obsessive too. It's a low blow for the author to brazenly call them control freaks, and as someone who actually has diagnosed OCD, it's a little offensive.

He comes off "holier-than-thou" when maybe he should come off as "silent."
 

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I think we've all agreed that Destructoid is extremist casual. Which, as we've seen here, can be every bit as mind-numbingly irritating as an extremist competitive.

Mew2King and Armada are not extremist competitive - they showed a lot of respect for SSB4 being different from Melee in that statement by requesting reduced lag rather than L cancels.
 
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Just ignore it guys. Every time you click the link, you give them views. The less views they get, the less money they make.
 

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i was reading the comments, I was never really big on Destructoid haha. It seems they've resorted to a lot of click bait recently and several people have been laid off. I wonder why
 

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Just ignore it guys. Every time you click the link, you give them views. The less views they get, the less money they make.
i was reading the comments, I was never really big on Destructoid haha. It seems they've resorted to a lot of click bait recently and several people have been laid off. I wonder why
That is why you use adblock, to chose which sites actually deserve their ad-revenue yourself and not let baitsites get clicks. Smashboards, off. Most Twitch-streams, off. etc
A little obsessive
In all contests there's always a bit of obsession required to win. It's those people who do win. Not the guy who want to change the rules to his benefit or the guy who whines that people "try to hard" because they clearly had no chance to begin with. Sure these things can be alright in a casual setting, but if you're ever in a contest don't expect others to slow down for you because they want to win and so do you (you just won't admit it).

PS, using "You" as third person, not you Old Man.
 
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Umm, are we sure he's not trollin'?

That was my first thought. I recently unsubbed from dtoid but liked Johnathan Holmes commentary on most things and sometimes Max Scoffield or however it's spelled. Tara long likes horrible games so I pay her no attention. I think he's trolling considering how die hard of a Nintendo fan John is.

His Sagat vids are probably some of the funniest things I've seen on the internet. They were so "edgy" I think Dtoid made him take them down since I can't find them on youtube anymore. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
 

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Here's a good question:

Why do people care what Destructoid says if the editor an incredibly foolish fool? lol redundancy
 

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Here's a good question:

Why do people care what Destructoid says if the editor an incredibly foolish fool? lol redundancy
Because whether we like it or not, Destructoid is one of the bigger game news sources. People actually listen to them.

Umm, are we sure he's not trollin'?
The first law of the internet and the media is Poe's Law.

Nobody is just trolling.
 

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He's not trolling. He started out by making some stupid claims on kotaku whereafter he refused to admit fault and went on to create these articles. He might've written something decent before, but lots of people don't get competitive gaming in the least, he's just one of those people the only problem being he doesn't realize it.
 
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