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Degeneration 1: Psychics

Darkshadow7827

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This is my first blog. For the record, it'll probably fall into the tl;dr category... So skip to the bottom for the tl;dr version :D

I often see, hear, and read about claims that tends to attract national attention on either a small, medium, or large scale. I feel that as science and technology grows, so does our advances in all types of fields: medical field, criminology, forensics, engineering, etc. But as we advance our knowledge, something incredibly ******** unconventional comes up to hinder our progress. Of course it's all about opinion. This is mine.

After watching 20/20, reading articles about psychics that appear in Life and Science magazines, I wonder if psychic children and paranormal "experts" should be taken seriously. It's a relevant issue because these "psychics" really impact society. For example, 20/20 did an interview on a 19 year old girl who claimed she could gold and brown auras around people. According to her, a gold aura depicts health and a brown aura depicts disease. She also said she she could see into the human body. As a biology major, she could diagnose a person just by looking at them! The proof? She saw a brown aura around her dad and saw he was sick with black lungs. It turned out his lungs were infected with a fungus.

So how does this affect society? You have her and hundreds of other "prodigy" children who convince truly sick patients to come to her rather than see a doctor. It's true that a doctor may not correctly diagnose you and will refer you to a specialist. Personally, I have seen up to 10 different specialists, but have not have a clear diagnoses as to why my condition arose. That doesn't mean I'm going to get psychic help.

The question we should be asking is should we take these psychics seriously? There is a lot about the human mind we don't know. Is it possible that a person can identify and diagnose the sick? Yet, these psychics could be convincing patients who need help to do something irrelevant, something that may worsen their condition. Even worse, she proclaims she can help people over the internets! So now a person who is sick and may need immediate help might, just might, send an email instead of going to the ER. We all know medical visits without insurance is expensive.

Even in the forensic field, police and investigators sometimes refer to psychics to help them with unsolved cases. They may help. They may not. More importantly, these psychics are taking work away from properly trained forensic investigators. If psychics are being used as a last resort, then they are probably wasting police officers time validating their claims. Some policemen, however, claim that psychics can actually help. So should we take these psychics seriously?

I will conclude with my argument against psychics and why it's bull****. The most logical explanation is that there's no hard physical evidence. The scientific method requires measurable results, a thesis on how the method work and the predicted results, and reproducible results. You can't even test their abilities. If we examine how we see, you'd find that everyone sees the same way. Light reflecting off objects, image projected on the cornea, rods cones, optic nerve, yada yada yada. Where would the deviation be in this process that allows for a human to see an aura? Would it be in the visual cortex in the occipital lobe? I think the most important factor is how psychics detracts some people from trained professionals. A doctor who has gone through 7-8 years of college, med school, and residency does not a self-proclaimed psychic to give a unvalidated diagnosis.

These self-proclaimed psychics who crave for attention have a degenerative effect on society. They are bringing us down as a species and they are hindering real progress. I am spiteful, but I do have an open mind. I will need concrete, reproducible evidence though.

tl;dr version:
*A psychic girl says she can see auras and see in the human body and tell us if we have a disease
*Everybody sees objects through the same process; she is no exception.
*She is giving patients unvalidated diagnoses, while doctors could give quality care with reasonable evidence.
*Forensic psychics take work from trained investigators.
*Forensic psychics are wasting police officer's time and money.
*I think psychics are attention-wh***s. I'll keep an open mind and listen to any counter arguments though.

What do you think?
 

DarkAura

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i actually 100% agree with this.

I think people who claim to have "special abilities" are just attention wh***s (censored it cause you did >.>), And some of them even make money from it which i think is just wrong
 

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Yeah I.......Sorry if I missed anything but I went with the TL;DR XD
psychics are absolotely real, it's just that 99% of them are fake and say that arn't.
My dad had an experiance with asking a psychic and everything she said was true.
I think for one to use her/his power for MONEY is fake, but there is no way to tell.
But yes they are real, but most people claming they are arn't.
 

Browny

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I love it when these psychic types go on national TV to prove their point, and the TV network always hold doubts over the story, and like 9 out of 10 times, the 'psychic' fails a simple test to get > 50% right.

"They are bringing us down as a species and they are hindering real progress"

rofl
 

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After watching 20/20, reading articles about psychics that appear in Life and Science magazines, I wonder if psychic children and paranormal "experts" should be taken seriously. It's a relevant issue because these "psychics" really impact society. For example, 20/20 did an interview on a 19 year old girl who claimed she could gold and brown auras around people. According to her, a gold aura depicts health and a brown aura depicts disease. She also said she she could see into the human body. As a biology major, she could diagnose a person just by looking at them! The proof? She saw a brown aura around her dad and saw he was sick with black lungs. It turned out his lungs were infected with a fungus.
She probably did see so. Whether or not she could sense such things other than that single time is unknown however. She most likely has not and cannot...
Even worse, she proclaims she can help people over the internets!
Scratch that. She most definitely cannot.
Even in the forensic field, police and investigators sometimes refer to psychics to help them with unsolved cases. They may help. They may not. More importantly, these psychics are taking work away from properly trained forensic investigators.
That's an urban myth. Investigators very rarely use ''psychics'' to help them. There have probably been few cases but generally this is something that you could consider a pseudo belief rumored through daily television. You could prove me wrong if you can link me to a legitimate source in which "psychics" have been used in police investigations.

I will conclude with my argument against psychics and why it's bull****. The most logical explanation is that there's no hard physical evidence. The scientific method requires measurable results, a thesis on how the method work and the predicted results, and reproducible results. You can't even test their abilities. If we examine how we see, you'd find that everyone sees the same way. Light reflecting off objects, image projected on the cornea, rods cones, optic nerve, yada yada yada. Where would the deviation be in this process that allows for a human to see an aura? Would it be in the visual cortex in the occipital lobe? I think the most important factor is how psychics detracts some people from trained professionals. A doctor who has gone through 7-8 years of college, med school, and residency does not a self-proclaimed psychic to give a unvalidated diagnosis.

These self-proclaimed psychics who crave for attention have a degenerative effect on society. They are bringing us down as a species and they are hindering real progress. I am spiteful, but I do have an open mind. I will need concrete, reproducible evidence though.
Have you ever heard of James Randi? He's a famous magician who dedicates his life to educating the public on fraudulent "Psychics" such as these. He is part of a foundation which offers $1 million to anyone who can prove a genuine psychic power under "proper observing conditions". Zero have succeeded. So you are correct, based on the current knowledge of science, psychics are fake.

I do not believe they bring such a downfall upon us however. Nothing is definite. Science has to have something to keep it in check. (God knows how long religion will be able to do that. [c wut I did thar?]). If there are people ignorant (or non ignorant) enough to believe in these psychics and seek medical attention from them rather than a trained medical professional that is their choice.

Also while it is true that 100% of psychics (The ones you see on tv. etc.) are fake (no not 99.9%, 100%), that does not conclude that Psychic Intuition does not exist at all. Events which are now considered "paranormally" do happen. For example the girl you described above. Because she was able to identify, """paranormally""", a disease one time, does that make her a psychic? imo she gone way over her head. Psychic Intuition resigns in all of us. People who believe they are full fledged psychics declare so because they experience few events with their psychic intuitiveness. (Knew what someone was going to say, Knew something was going to happen) Because of that they take it to a greater extreme. (Declare themselves Mind Readers, and Fortune Tellers).
 

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I've never believed in psychics. Just people who think they're special.
 

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I think they might be real to a point not like blowing up peoples haeds and stuff, but I,ve had things happen like I know what was going to happen without even knowing if that maakes any sence or I would randomly say something and it pop up. I,ve known stuff about people without asking but telling them you hate blueberries.

Sometimes I start talking about something people are worried about or have been thinking about. but it's all random and I have been known as crazy so what ever. I don't care if you believe me or not but that ones on tv why would they care about people caring?

Why I think some if not many are fakes. But even animals sometimes have the abilty to see things coming like earthquakes or floods or whatever.

Oh yeah I have had dreams about asking people stuff and I did and gone the same answer but you come just say I just wanted to be seen or relive my dreams
 

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This man speaks the truth. There was (maybe still is) a project that attempted to find a real psychic. Turns out, when they are in a controlled test environment, they can't do their psychic thing. Even Uri Geller, that guy who's famous for bending spoons with his mind like the kid in the Matrix, failed to do it when he appeared on a talk show where they didn't let him use his own spoons. Some psychics may very well be real, but I have yet to see/hear any proof, and I won't believe they are until I do.
 
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