William5000000
Smash Journeyman
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Xermo
Smash Champion
That's not how stock losses worked in melee. If you were star ko'd you'd still not lose your stock until the animation finished.
Just say you want blast KOs off the top removed. We've been over this before.
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William5000000
Smash Journeyman
Okay, so there is still a tiny bit of unfairness with that in "Melee".
I was thinking that before, but then what about Ness? How often did Ness use PK Thunder 2 off-stage to score a KO in last stock situations?
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Xermo
Smash Champion
If they were ko'd from the side, that's fine. If they flew to the top and blast ko'd, that's fine. If they star'd, that's also fine because it was most likely the optimal thing to do based on his position offstage.
Running into Ness offstage is a conscious decision made in an attempt to either edge guard him or because you intentionally got hit by him to half his recovery distance.
I get where you're coming from though. The most optimal solution is to cue blast KOs from the top of the screen if you and the opponent were both offstage,and to cue screen/star when on stage. That way jiggs lives from rest or wins the game either way.
Running into Ness offstage is a conscious decision made in an attempt to either edge guard him or because you intentionally got hit by him to half his recovery distance.
I get where you're coming from though. The most optimal solution is to cue blast KOs from the top of the screen if you and the opponent were both offstage,and to cue screen/star when on stage. That way jiggs lives from rest or wins the game either way.
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William5000000
Smash Journeyman
I also thought of that before too. But then someone said it would take so much work to determine where they occur on-stage and off-stage, so much that it would require starting the game from scratch again because of the engine the game runs on. I believe it was Derpnaster that said it on the Patch 1.1.7 thread.
William5000000
Smash Journeyman
I don't want to put a modder through so much trouble trying to determine where those KOs occur, so that's why I suggested what I said above. That's got to save a modder a lot of trouble.
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Xermo
Smash Champion
Your proposal is still unfeasible for modding and only works in a scenario where top KOs are always blast unfortunately.
Assuming it was possible, it'd look awkward and ugly as hell for the announcer to call out game as soon as the star ko triggered.
Assuming it was possible, it'd look awkward and ugly as hell for the announcer to call out game as soon as the star ko triggered.
William5000000
Smash Journeyman
Darn. I thought I was getting somewhere with this.
That would actually be funny... to me anyway, especially when the Screen KO triggered.
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William5000000
Smash Journeyman
I've updated my suggestions. See above.
William5000000
Smash Journeyman
There's got to be a modder that's willing to make one like that. Otherwise, I can't continue my challenge on what I started since "Smash 64".
Up to this point, every suggestion I made about the Star KOs/Screen KOs based on fairness has been futile because they either require too much work or are just straight up impossible! As of now, I'm done trying to be fair on those KOs! Now I just want a mod that REMOVES upward Blast KOs! I'm aware that some stages have Star KOs/Screen KOs disabled because of problems, but I just want a mod that removes those lame upward Blast KOs!
And you know what? Since some people just straight up hate Star KOs/Screen KOs, I want a mod that REMOVES Star KOs/Screen KOs! That way, those kind of people won't have to complain about that anymore!
Like I said, I'm done trying to be fair!
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...ok then... sorry if i upset you.
William5000000
Smash Journeyman
You didn't upset me. I'm just frustrated about this whole thing. It's like nobody cares if the top KOs are random, which really infuriates me. I've actually been unhappy with that since the release of this game, and there hasn't been a single mod that removes the randomness of them yet (Yes, I know the top KOs aren't truly random, but still). I can't even do the challenge I wanted to do in this game!
Unless a modder makes a mod that removes the randomness of those top KOs, my challenge will definitely end at "Brawl", because it DOES involve a Star KO at the very end of the match, and that's been part of my goal since "Smash 64".
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i know how you feel. i wanted to do a challenge that involves star/screen kos only with jigglypuff using rest. those programmers took that away. its the reason why i quit this game.You didn't upset me. I'm just frustrated about this whole thing. It's like nobody cares if the top KOs are random, which really infuriates me. I've actually been unhappy with that since the release of this game, and there hasn't been a single mod that removes the randomness of them yet (Yes, I know the top KOs aren't truly random, but still). I can't even do the challenge I wanted to do in this game!
Unless a modder makes a mod that removes the randomness of those top KOs, my challenge will definitely end at "Brawl", because it DOES involve a Star KO at the very end of the match, and that's been part of my goal since "Smash 64".
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William5000000
Smash Journeyman
I feel sorry for you and others who wanted to do that type of challenge. That's got to be frustrating to start that challenge from "Smash 64", and then all of a sudden you can no longer do it because it's been changed completely. For those people, they're basically screwed because they can't continue that challenge after "Brawl".i know how you feel. i wanted to do a challenge that involves star/screen kos only with jigglypuff using rest. those programmers took that away. its the reason why i quit this game.
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it is frustrating because i actually did start that challenge from smash 64 with jigglypuff. thanks to those lousy programmers, i cant continue it after brawl. and apparently those programmers are intentionally going to make the top kos random for smash nx too. this sucks! now i want a star/screen kos mod for smash nx too!
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William5000000
Smash Journeyman
...I wish I could make one myself, but I don't even know how to mod. Plus, I'm way too busy with other things, so asking me to make a Star KOs/Screen KOs (and upward Blast KOs) mod for "Smash 4" and "Smash NX" is definitely out of the question. Again, I'm hoping a modder will be willing to make those mods like that. It would be fantastic not having to deal with randomness on those top KOs, even if they're not truly random.
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