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Dead or alive allowed cross-platform multiplayer... Should smash 4 too?

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Dead Or Alive 5 allowed cross-platform multiplayer (ps3 x ps vita), and it that was a great deal, because Dead Or Alive isn't Tekken, it's not gonna sell millions, but the question is:

Should Smash 4 allow this as well?

We all know the Wii U's sales will look bad compared to the 3DS version, and even though both consoles have different stages, they still have stages that are on both platforms, the rest is the same, I mean, it could be a deal-breaker for online

What do you think? Like, imho, they should reconsider this
 
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Unlike, say, PSASBR, both versions are way too different to even consider cross platform.

I don't see this happening.
 

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Unlike, say, PSASBR, both versions are way too different to even consider cross platform.

I don't see this happening.
No, they're not
Literally the only difference is the 5/6 exclusive stages. Music shouldn't even be taken into consideration
 

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No, they're not
Literally the only difference is the 5/6 exclusive stages. Music shouldn't even be taken into consideration
5/6 exclusive stages? The only stages that are shared between the Wii U and 3DS are Battlefield, Final Destination, Boxing Ring and Wily's Castle as confirmed by Sakurai in a PotD, every other stage on both platforms are exclusive.

Either way, Sakurai confirmed it won't be happening in an interview when the game was first shown.
 
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5/6 exclusive stages? The only stages that are shared between the Wii U and 3DS are Battlefield, Final Destination, Boxing Ring and Wily's Castle as confirmed by Sakurai in a PotD, every other stage on both platforms are exclusive.

Either way, Sakurai confirmed it won't be happening in an interview when the game was first shown.
Well, if desperate times will come (probably not lol), then it would call for desperate measures :awesome:
Okay not 5/6 my bad

Anyway, I know he said that, but that's why I said "should"
 

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No, they're not
Literally the only difference is the 5/6 exclusive stages. Music shouldn't even be taken into consideration
I don't see this happening, I don't think the Nintendo Network thing would be fast to do interconsole, and also there''s only like what? 5 stage? That are the same. Also the people with the Wii U version would be able to use GC controllers which most people have more experience with.

Edit: Also I think Wii U will get equal sales with the 3DS, if not more.
 
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Local play? Perhaps that could be an option.

No, they're not
Literally the only difference is the 5/6 exclusive stages. Music shouldn't even be taken into consideration
This is just your opinion man. And, it is actually wrong, because we already know a few BIG differences, such as SMASH RUN is 3ds, Amiibos are Wii U. Outlines for characters are 3ds, etc...
You seem to just be quite bias with your opinion, when in reality, we have been told quite differently. I will not try to convince you and rather, will just allow you to wait for the product.

We all know the Wii U's sales will look bad compared to the 3DS version, and even though both consoles have different stages, they still have stages that are on both platforms, the rest is the same, I mean, it could be a deal-breaker for online
I know this is not the topic of point for this thread, but I disagree with this sentiment entirely.
The launch on the 3DS may be one thing, but any actual fan will obviously be getting it on both, but additionally, there are clear marketing strategies that will be used to combat this.

The clearest being the evident point that we know nothing of what Wii U version will actually contain, other than Amiibos, which is a huge point in itself (no idea what modes).

The other is that, I personally, believe it is likely to come with characters the 3DS version will not have available until it can get to DLC. BOTH will have the same roster, but nothing stated it would get the roster at the exact same moment, particularly if one would be an incentive, and I think seeing Ridley, K Rool, and Mewtwo as incoming challengers in HD is a huge incentive for Wii U first--- unless that may be considered too big of a delay.
 
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I really don't think Nintendo will ever allow the other gaming industries to use its work. After all, Microsoft doesn't allow Nintendo to use any of its properties; this especially includes Rare Ltd..
 

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I really don't think Nintendo will ever allow the other gaming industries to use its work. After all, Microsoft doesn't allow Nintendo to use any of its properties; this especially includes Rare Ltd..
I'm not trying to be rude, but where does microsoft come into this? They're asking if Wii U users and 3DS players can play together.

But I kinda hope they don't since I like that the difference in controls will lead to different tiers. Maybe not much different but still different.

I know this is not the topic of point for this thread, but I disagree with this sentiment entirely.
The launch on the 3DS may be one thing, but any actual fan will obviously be getting it on both, but additionally, there are clear marketing strategies that will be used to combat this.

The clearest being the evident point that we know nothing of what Wii U version will actually contain, other than Amiibos, which is a huge point in itself (no idea what modes).
Considering the 3DS is at 44 million and the Wii U is at around 7 I'd say that the 3ds will easily outsell the Wii U no matter the features.
 
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Considering the 3DS is at 44 million and the Wii U is at around 7 I'd say that the 3ds will easily outsell the Wii U no matter the features.
Wii U has had nothing announced for it, including a release date.
You can decide as you will how you feel.

I don't myself even have my Wii U copy preordered, if that is what you are quoting- I don't know where I will be buying it at.
I do know, still, I will be getting both.
 

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The 2 versions don't share the same stages. Even if some are in both versions, the rendering for them is completely different. Battlefield for the WIi U version is not Battlefield on the 3DS version.

...but I really want this to happen anyway.
 

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As others have stated, stages are a huge problem with this. Even if they allowed it with shared stages, you'd be extremely limited in options. Not to mention possible differences in character powers (or tier positions) between versions. So, in the words of Sakurai; "There will be no cross-platform play".
 

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I really don't think Nintendo will ever allow the other gaming industries to use its work. After all, Microsoft doesn't allow Nintendo to use any of its properties; this especially includes Rare Ltd..
Rare is like a swear word now, don't mention them again. If you must, refer to them as "new Rareware".
 

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Local play? Perhaps that could be an option.



This is just your opinion man. And, it is actually wrong, because we already know a few BIG differences, such as SMASH RUN is 3ds, Amiibos are Wii U. Outlines for characters are 3ds, etc...
You seem to just be quite bias with your opinion, when in reality, we have been told quite differently. I will not try to convince you and rather, will just allow you to wait for the product.



I know this is not the topic of point for this thread, but I disagree with this sentiment entirely.
The launch on the 3DS may be one thing, but any actual fan will obviously be getting it on both, but additionally, there are clear marketing strategies that will be used to combat this.

The clearest being the evident point that we know nothing of what Wii U version will actually contain, other than Amiibos, which is a huge point in itself (no idea what modes).

The other is that, I personally, believe it is likely to come with characters the 3DS version will not have available until it can get to DLC. BOTH will have the same roster, but nothing stated it would get the roster at the exact same moment, particularly if one would be an incentive, and I think seeing Ridley, K Rool, and Mewtwo as incoming challengers in HD is a huge incentive for Wii U first--- unless that may be considered too big of a delay.
It's not really an opinion... Outlines are personal settings, and apart from the stages and music, I don't see any differences :/ (any differences that would effect cross-platform, obviously...)

I guess we'll just have to wait and see! Hope you're right though

I don't think there will be DLC and hopefully there won't... You could be right though, but I'm doubting it
 

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I agree "should" would be nice, but they simply aren't, so there's nothing to do but wait for the next edition, or the remote possibility of a distant patch changing it.

That said, why would you play from a 3DS if there's a U in the room unless the person doesn't have enough Gamecube controllers?
On that note, I don't see a reason to not have the 3DS function as a controller, though I'm sure there's probably a perfectly obvious reason (probably lag, the only game I recall letting you use the DS as a controller on the Wii was Pokemon Battle Revolution, which was turn based).
 

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It's not really an opinion... Outlines are personal settings, and apart from the stages and music, I don't see any differences :/ (any differences that would effect cross-platform, obviously...)

I guess we'll just have to wait and see! Hope you're right though

I don't think there will be DLC and hopefully there won't... You could be right though, but I'm doubting it
Oh, differences for cross platform play. I could honesty see when we get characters, potentially, being that. Also, the fact that amiibos do not register with 3DS...

Yet, I still do not understand why anyone would not want DLC : \
 

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It can't work with how the games are being designed. They're two separate games, which is also why there won't be a "buy one, get there other free" deal.
 

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I really don't think Nintendo will ever allow the other gaming industries to use its work. After all, Microsoft doesn't allow Nintendo to use any of its properties; this especially includes Rare Ltd..
What does that have to do with crossplatform play?
 

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Oh, differences for cross platform play. I could honesty see when we get characters, potentially, being that. Also, the fact that amiibos do not register with 3DS...

Yet, I still do not understand why anyone would not want DLC : \
Aren't amiibos offline-only? (Idk)

Bcz you're paying for extra comtent for your already bought game:/
 

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Beyond the stages you also have to acknowledge that the screen and controls are going to be radically different, and that's gonna make a big difference. On the 3DS everything is scaled down. The guy on the wii u is going to have an easier time just seeing the fight and what you're going to be doing. Plus, he'll have a gamecube controller and you'll have the circle pad.

And really, that's not in any way fair.
 
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apart from the stages and music, I don't see any differences :/ (any differences that would effect cross-platform, obviously...)
I don't know what world you live in, but stage selection DIRECTLY effects cross-platform and makes it impossible for them to play together.

Out of 24 stages we've seen for 3DS, only 4 of them are also on the Wii U. So at best, you'd only be able to play those 4 stages. So mean, in a wild theory, you could play a watered down 'Wily, FD, Battlefield, Boxing Ring' only match.

It's like saying "Aside from this car not having an engine, I don't see anything that affects driving it".
 

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I don't know what world you live in, but stage selection DIRECTLY effects cross-platform and makes it impossible for them to play together.

Out of 24 stages we've seen for 3DS, only 4 of them are also on the Wii U. So at best, you'd only be able to play those 4 stages. So mean, in a wild theory, you could play a watered down 'Wily, FD, Battlefield, Boxing Ring' only match.

It's like saying "Aside from this car not having an engine, I don't see anything that affects driving it".
Do you know what "Apart from" means?
 

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Do you know what "Apart from" means?
His point is people are saying "if you ignore all the most important differences sure it can work". But these important differences are the reasons it wont work.
 
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There are technical problems since both games have different engines. But if it could be physically possible, I'm sure Nintendo would not do that. They didn't put online to so maaaaany games they needed, so I can't imagine them putting cross-platform in any way.
 

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I must've misinterpreted what this thread is saying earlier. Anyway, since the Wii U and 3DS versions do not share the same stages, gameplay interactions between them would be impossible.
 

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Oh, differences for cross platform play. I could honesty see when we get characters, potentially, being that. Also, the fact that amiibos do not register with 3DS...

Yet, I still do not understand why anyone would not want DLC : \
I can guarantee no console will have exclusive characters. People would go ballistic.
 

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As much as a wide like it to, it won't happen. As everybody else has already said, the versions are almost completely different save a few stages and the same character roster.
 
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