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Dashing into non-dash moves

joenm8r

Smash Cadet
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Oct 3, 2007
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Yesterday I met with a Pikachu online that seemed to like spamming his down b.

Quite the nuisance. He kept hopping over everyone and performing the move on the downward arc as he was just over an opponent's head. This would cause the lightning bolt to strike the opponent clean and not touch the zap-rat. ARGH! So anyway, I was so annoyed that I began to focus on him. I didn't have much luck until I started to adjust.

I dashed at his predictable pattern and then let go of the stick. A split second after Ganondorf started his skidding to a halt animation I jabbed. This was neat when it connected but it only worked when his lightning bolt didn't hit him.

I came in 4th and Pikachu came in 1st. I stopped caring about kills and started caring about stopping the incessant "PIKA!". Not to make excuses for my skills either, I don't think I would've won that match anyway, its just annoying when a spammer gets the better of you. (I bet it was Cassamisina from IGN)

Anywho, the thing I did that felt really satisfying is that I dashed and then skidded into an F-Tilt for a KO. I was so happy with myself that I dedicated the following practice stage to perfecting this. Here's what I learned.

The skidding jab is the easiest thing to do, but you must be running first to perform the move. I found out that just smashing the stick and releasing it followed by A performed a dash attack, which is useful by itself.

The skidding F-Tilt is hard for me because I have to dash, release the stick to skid and then quickly move the stick back halfway forward and press A. If I click the stick I end up going into a dash attack again.

I haven't tried a D-Tilt and what's the sense of a U-Tilt anyway? I did also play around with U-Smash out of a dash but I seem to be able to do that immediately anyway, ie. - while running and without skidding, which seems faster and more unexpected, so I'm not really concerned about that.

Has anybody else used this technique and what were your results? Discuss.

BTW - I don't intend this post to be the discovery of a new technique, nor do I intend to take any credit for it. I just want to see what the community does or has done with the above methods.
 

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Smash Hero
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I tried it and it is pretty easy to do a jab from a dash. Just dash, stop and when you see the 'skidding' animation (coming to a stop), press A. If you do it too fast, you'll do a dash attack. Ftilt is a bit harder to do, like he said.

And yeah, you can just upsmash out of a run at any time using the C-stick or smashing normally.
 

Sliq

Smash Master
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Or you can just put up your shield, immediately drop it, then do ANYTHING.
 

joenm8r

Smash Cadet
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Or you can just put up your shield, immediately drop it, then do ANYTHING.
Basically what I did is run in and skid to a halt just in range of an f-tilt and planted one on him while he was electrified. Dorf's shield is so big I think I would've been pushed back had I tried that.

Regardless, I agree, what you mention seems much easier and far more versatile. Ima try that out, I do want to be amazing as well, Sliq.
 

Sliq

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Basically what I did is run in and skid to a halt just in range of an f-tilt and planted one on him while he was electrified. Dorf's shield is so big I think I would've been pushed back had I tried that.

Regardless, I agree, what you mention seems much easier and far more versatile. Ima try that out, I do want to be amazing as well, Sliq.
The thing is is that approaching then pulling up your shield will PROTECT YOU. And seeing as how shielding is amazing, approaching with your shield is amazing. If they hit you, you hit them out of shield. And if they spaced it, you can dash at them, shield again. More likely than not, they will freak out as you continue to approach.

Apparently, defensive is the new offenses.
 
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