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Dash Canceling using Crouch

Accf124

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Now if some of you aren't aware in Melee characters had the ability to cancel there dash using crouch. This was actually a very useful technique which allowed characters to run and then follow up with another move such as tilts and smashes. Now the reason I support this is mostly because it gives characters more access to there moves. Typically if you wanna use just about MOST grounded moves you have to either be in a stationary position or walking. When you get down to it when a character is running they can typically follow it up with either a aerial (5 moves) or a special (4 moves) coming down to only 9 moves you can use outta dash. When you look at it characters don't have many moves in smash and the few moves they have they sometimes can't even use. Now Sakurai doesn't necessarily bring back Dash Canceling (using crouch), but maybe allow us to tilts and smashes out of dash without the crouch. I just think characters should be able to at least have access to the few moves they have.
 

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How would one tilt out of a dash?
 

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At that point wouldn't they just be variants of the dash attack?
 
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They should bring this back from Melee. You could technically do anything out of the dash cancel if you are fast enough. You can bait attacks with crouch canceling since it negates hitstun immediately up to a certain percentage. It should return with a balanced hit-taking mechanic.
 

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They should bring this back from Melee. You could technically do anything out of the dash cancel if you are fast enough. You can bait attacks with crouch canceling since it negates hitstun immediately up to a certain percentage. It should return with a balanced hit-taking mechanic.
Brawl has crouch cancelling..... Except sakurai nerfed it to only reduce hitstun and not knock back.

Crouch cancelling made Roy useless lol.
 

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Now if some of you aren't aware in Melee characters had the ability to cancel there dash using crouch. This was actually a very useful technique which allowed characters to run and then follow up with another move such as tilts and smashes. Now the reason I support this is mostly because it gives characters more access to there moves. Typically if you wanna use just about MOST grounded moves you have to either be in a stationary position or walking. When you get down to it when a character is running they can typically follow it up with either a aerial (5 moves) or a special (4 moves) coming down to only 9 moves you can use outta dash. When you look at it characters don't have many moves in smash and the few moves they have they sometimes can't even use. Now Sakurai doesn't necessarily bring back Dash Canceling (using crouch), but maybe allow us to tilts and smashes out of dash without the crouch. I just think characters should be able to at least have access to the few moves they have.
This reminds me a LOT of Tekken's movement game - doesn't help that wavedashing comes from that game too. Anyway, I think it'd be neat to include crouch canceling for movement, though I wonder if this could be applied to rolls too.

As for that mentioned property of crouching reducing hitstun/knockback, why is that a thing in the first place? When I first heard about it, it made no sense to me to have such a thing. Evading certain attacks? Yes. Reducing hitstun/knockback? If anything, crouching should be INCREASING it, not reducing.
 

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but maybe allow us to tilts and smashes out of dash without the crouch.
This is what I was getting at. Your point is that they should either bring dash canceling, or allow characters to tilt/smash from a dash without canceling with the crouch.
How would that work.
 
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The only way it could is if there was no cool down from ending a run, but that's likely a bad idea.
 

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This is what I was getting at. Your point is that they should either bring dash canceling, or allow characters to tilt/smash from a dash without canceling with the crouch.
How would that work.
Well I guess using a tilt directly outta a dash would be difficult, but I still think plain dash canceling should come back.
 
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