Darkrai?!

[Deleted member]

I know some people who believe that Darkrai should be in Brawl, and I say no. He isn't quite known around North America too much to be in it. Plus, he ain't that popular inlike Mewtwo and Pikachu.

Opinions?

 

[tirkaro]

even though I am a darkrai supporter, and I see many flaws in your opinion, I'll just say this:

couldn't you have just freakin' posted this in the darkrai thread?

 

[xianfeng]

I don't know how some morons could think he has any real chance at all.

 

[Brentos4o8]

I highly doubt he'll be in.

 

[freeman123]

I know some people who believe that Darkrai should be in Brawl, and I say no. He isn't quite known around North America too much to be in it. Plus, he ain't that popular inlike Mewtwo and Pikachu.

Opinions?

Tell the people who play PBR online that he isn't that well known, because lately it seems like every other team uses him.

And there's already a Darkrai topic.

 

[LavisFiend]

I don't know how some morons could think he has any real chance at all.

You REALLY need to fix your sig... XD

What the hell is a Darkrai?

 

[xianfeng]

Probably and Darkrai is some legendary pokemon from the new games that you can only get from trading from a japanese game, no events to get him have been set up from nintendo yet, and only like major nerds really attend those things anyway.

 

[Yukiwarashi]

Or you know...little CHILDREN who enjoy the Pokemon franchise?

Besides, Darkrai not being known (offically) by North America is no big deal. Hello, Roy? People should stop bringing that argument up. I don't see how Darkrai is such a foolish idea in the first place either. People point to the Lucario movie as a reason for Lucario to be in, but how do you know Darkrai isn't as popular? The 10th Pokemon movie was a huge success, and who was the main Pokemon of that movie? That's right, Darkrai.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

I don't think Darkrai has that much of a chance. He would be cool, but I think he'll just be Pokeballed like every other Legendary. Except Mewtwo, of course.

EDIT:

700th post,

Lucario for Brawl!

 

[xianfeng]

The Pokemon movies haven't been succsuful anywhere but Japan since the second one, that's a really stupid point.

 

[Yukiwarashi]

I haven't seen you making any valid points on why Darkrai shouldn't be a playable character at all. All you've done is insult people for wanting a certain character. So tell me, why shouldn't Darkrai be a playable character in Brawl? It's not like Darkrai will be a Japan only character forever.

 

[HipsterKid]

The Pokemon movies haven't been succsuful anywhere but Japan since the second one, that's a really stupid point.

But where does it really matter most?

...and THAT is the reason he shouldn't be in. I'm still even finding it hard to believe Gardevoir has so much support.

If You've ever played Pokemon Ruby or Sapphire, you know who Gardevoir is.
If You've ever played Pokemon: Mystery Dungeon, you know who Gardevoir is.
She's a likable character. Likable characters get support. Easy as that :/

 

[Brawligator]

What the hell is a Darkrai?

...and THAT is the reason he shouldn't be in. I'm still even finding it hard to believe Gardevoir has so much support.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

...and THAT is the reason he shouldn't be in. I'm still even finding it hard to believe Gardevoir has so much support.

Even though I agree with you on Gardevoir, and I don't really care much for Darkrai..

Who the hell is Roy?

 

[Kirye]

What the hell is a Darkrai?

And that's all that has to be said.

 

[Black/Light]

1. There is a Darkrai topic. . . this one should be locked.

2. I completely dissagree with your post.

 

[EricShiznit]

Darkrai is an EVENT pokemon. That means, unless you are a nerd, a cheater, or trade with the japanese, you don't know what Darkrai is. Of course Darkrai appears in the TCG and the movie, but as we all know SSBB is about video games.

A pokemon with such an exclusive fanbase probably doesn't have much of a chance. ANY of the first gen. pokemon have a better chance than Darkrai.

 

[Deleted member]

What the hell is a Darkrai?

My point ends. Thread Over.

 

[smashbot226]

I don't know how some morons could think he has any real chance at all.

SUPER HIGH popularity in Japan.

As was Jigglypuff.

And look at her.

 

[Yukiwarashi]

Darkrai is an EVENT pokemon. That means, unless you are a nerd, a cheater, or trade with the japanese, you don't know what Darkrai is. Of course Darkrai appears in the TCG and the movie, but as we all know SSBB is about video games.

A pokemon with such an exclusive fanbase probably doesn't have much of a chance. ANY of the first gen. pokemon have a better chance than Darkrai.

SSBB is about video games, yes. So I'd like to hear you explain what significance Jigglypuff had to Pokemon Red/Green. Go on, I'm waiting.

 

[EricShiznit]

Exactly the same significance Pikachu did.

 

[dan smith]

Darkrain? He plays Captain Falcon.

 

[Yukiwarashi]

Pikachu was popular because of the anime, which led to the creation of Pokemon Yellow. So I'm afraid your effort failed horribly. When it comes to other video game franchises, yes it is about the video games. But Pokemon is the only exception, so it's quite foolish to ignore the anime in that regard. The game even uses voices from the anime rather than the sounds from the Game Boy games. You have not proven Darkrai shouldn't be playable in the slightest, seeing as how Roy never came here yet he got into Melee. And unlike Roy, Darkrai's data is in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl, so people would learn of him eventually.

 

[xianfeng]

So tell me, why shouldn't Darkrai be a playable character in Brawl?

-From an overrepresented series
-Not Well known
-Not too popular
-Legendary status doesn't help at all
-Movie doesn't help at all
-Not officially released anywhere but Japan
-Nearly impossible to get
-Better more unique characters from many series available (Silly Point I know but it does kind of work)
If you need more reasons or want me to explain this I will later, this was a little rushed but gives a breif summary of my argument, I also have more points later.

But where does it really matter most?

Japan and the United States, that's where Sakurai is considering (he's ignoring Europe and Australia though sadly) So I think Pokemon's declining popularity in America should play some role as to what Sakurai decides, he seems to like the first gen pokemon.

She's a likable character. Likable characters get support. Easy as that :/

She's a generic character. I thought people on liked her because of the disguisting, pathetic, perverted "Gardevoir Hentai" around the internet.

Who the hell is Roy?

Someone that was used for advertising, Darkrai can't have this reason, his games been released for ages and his movie won't be popular in america no matter how much advertising is used, the anime just sucks and everyone knows it.

Of course Darkrai appears in the TCG and the movie,

But nobody plays with those cards or watches that show anymore as both suck.

SUPER HIGH popularity in Japan.

Source, please not that wikipedia is not at all reliable for a source.

As was Jigglypuff.

She was popular worldwide, not just Japan.

So I'd like to hear you explain what significance Jigglypuff had to Pokemon Red/Green.

It was Red/Blue everywhere but Japan sweetheart, learn where you live kay? Also Jigglypuff was an extradinarily popular pokemon worldwide with a siginficant role in the anime when it was at it's peak and was popular, Darkrai can not make either of these claims.

 

[Yukiwarashi]

Um, yeah. Don't call me sweetheart, okay? Thanks.

Second of all, if the US matters so much, why didn't Sakurai poll the US for what characters they wanted, huh? I'm free to say whatever I want, I can call Pokemon Red/Green what I want. All you're doing is looking at the American perspective which isn't even correct in the first place. Pokemon is one of Cartoon Network's highest ranking shows and while the series is obviously not as big as it was at its peak, it's still very popular today.

How does being a legendary not help Darkrai's status? He's powerful and he doesn't belong in the "main legendary trinity" of Palkia, Dialga and Giratina. The movies are a part of the anime, and with Darkrai being the main character of the latest movie, his chances aren't completely horrible. As I've been saying before, while Darkrai is not yet revealed in the US, he will be eventually and with the release of the 10th movie on DVD, there's no doubt he'll be revealed around that time. Now here's a question for you, since you seem to be asking for sources...show me a source that shows that Darkrai isn't popular in Japan.

Look, I'm not even really for Darkrai being in Brawl. I just acknowledge there's a chance of him being playable. You really got on my nerve when you called anyone who wanted him in Brawl a moron, so that's why I spoke up. Try to be a bit more mindful of others.

 

[ZenJestr]

Originally Posted by LavisFiend View Post
What the hell is a Darkrai?

My point ends. Thread Over.

one/a few people do not recognize him and it cannot be in Brawl in any form?

I didnt know who Samus, Ness, Cpt. Falcon, , Link, and Kirby was when Smash 64 came out....so they can't be in Brawl...(I know they are......and I was....like....6 or 7 at the time...I only really played Mario, Star Fox, DK and Pokemon games at the time as well and I started playing Kirby, Zelda, etc. after I played Smash)

I am neither a Darkrai supporter nor am I against Darkrai...if its playable...fine if its not...it better be in a Pokeball...

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

If anything, Darkrai would be in a Poke Ball.

 

[xianfeng]

Um, yeah. Don't call me sweetheart, okay? Thanks.

If it pisses you off sweetheart I'll keep saying it Everything I do is for a reaction.

Second of all, if the US matters so much, why didn't Sakurai poll the US for what characters they wanted, huh

I dunno, ask him. But he did say that he was considering the US so yeah that's got to mean something.

I'm free to say whatever I want, I can call Pokemon Red/Green what I want.

You can but you'll be wrong.

All you're doing is looking at the American perspective which isn't even correct in the first place.

So an american perspective is wrong? Of course there can only be one view and one perspective on ANYTHING and of course the Japanese perspective is correct right? They would never win over america in anything, wait a minute...

Pokemon is one of Cartoon Network's highest ranking shows and while the series is obviously not as big as it was at its peak, it's still very popular today.

It is no where near as popular as it was before, over half their audiance has stop watching that pathetic show.

How does being a legendary not help Darkrai's status?

Because only one legendary is playable and the rest have been shoved in Pokeballs.

He's powerful and he doesn't belong in the "main legendary trinity" of Palkia, Dialga and Giratina.

Which just means he isn't important to the game.

The movies are a part of the anime, and with Darkrai being the main character of the latest movie, his chances aren't completely horrible

But with a huge, massive dip in the anime's popularity it doesn't really mean anything. If he stared in a movie about 7 years ago it would mean something.

As I've been saying before, while Darkrai is not yet revealed in the US, he will be eventually and with the release of the 10th movie on DVD, there's no doubt he'll be revealed around that time.

But the movie will recieve little to no advertising and will be pretty unknown and unpopular and be really obscure.

Now here's a question for you, since you seem to be asking for sources...show me a source that shows that Darkrai isn't popular in Japan.

Never said he wasn't. I was talking from an american perspective.

You really got on my nerve when you called anyone who wanted him in Brawl a moron, so that's why I spoke up. Try to be a bit more mindful of others.

Well his chances are slim and some people think he's more likely than Lucario and like I said before everything I do is for a reaction.

one/a few people do not recognize him and it cannot be in Brawl in any form?

Most people DON'T know who he is.

I didnt know who Samus, Ness, Cpt. Falcon, , Link, and Kirby was when Smash 64 came out....so they can't be in Brawl...(I know they are......and I was....like....6 or 7 at the time...I only really played Mario, Star Fox, DK and Pokemon games at the time as well and I started playing Kirby, Zelda, etc. after I played Smash)

But they were all from popular games at the time and were important in their games and their series, Darkrai is not.

 

[Black/Light]

Darkrai is a pokemon. . . there for Darkrai has a "chance" (a higher chance with his movie being the newest one and marking the 10 year pokemon has been out IMO).

Really, if you all are going to argue soo lively about every dang pokemon wanted for Brawl than I guess you just choose to argue for no reason.

 

[skullkidd]

Darkrai would make an excellent Pokemon boss for adventure mode.

 

[vesperview]

Not even know what Darkrai is.

 

[FoxMaster77]

If Darkai got in Brawl, this is what he would look like

 

[Pyr0]

Well, this thread is pointless, how about you all discuss (and learn about Darkrai ) in the the thread

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=2902940#post2902940

Feel free to discuss all about him there =D

 

[smashbot226]

I don't know how some morons could think he has any real chance at all.

AHEM! Darkrai is now VERY VERY popular in Japan... just as Jigglypuff was around SSB and SSBM.

I could see him at the very LEAST as an Assist Trophy.

For the idiots out there who think he should be a boss, FYI, Rayquaza and Giratina can fill that role nicely.

 

[Kirby knight]

]AHEM! Darkrai is now VERY VERY popular in Japan... just as Jigglypuff was around SSB and SSBM.[/B]

I could see him at the very LEAST as an Assist Trophy.

For the idiots out there who think he should be a boss, FYI, Rayquaza and Giratina can fill that role nicely.

Actually that comparison doesn't work somewhat. Considering Jigglypuff had a huge world-wide fanbase Darkrai has not. Darkrai is just not getting some attention from outside of Japan; and even then he has to compete with Lucario who has had a great world-wide fanbase unlike Darkrai.(Since Lucario had more time to establish it).

Granted, if Darkrai was released around Lucario's time that could of given him the attention he needed, but as of right now I don't see him as frontrunner for becoming a playable character. I can see him making an apperance as a pokeball pokemon however.

-Knight

 

[vesperview]

The Pokemon movies haven't been succsuful anywhere but Japan since the second one, that's a really stupid point.

That's a stupid argument, if they thought like you Lucas would have never been in Brawl.

 

[xianfeng]

That's a stupid argument, if they thought like you Lucas would have never been in Brawl.

Lucas is the most recent main character in his series and Sakurai previously said he wanted to replace Ness with Lucas. Darkrai is not a main character in his series, nor are any of the pokemon except for Pikachu but still.

 

[pablovirus]

Foruth generation pokemon suck and it's a fact. just ask, ask everywhere and the big majority will say the same -.- And the anime sucks even more, thousands of filler, boring episodes. Seriously I cant understand why people want these lame poke-aliens as playable characters.
Lucario looks cool though and his humanoid shape would make it easy for him to be a character.

 

[MysticKenji]

Foruth generation pokemon suck and it's a fact.

No, they don't. Stop spreading lies.