Dair to grab instead of Dair to Shine on low %

[Vall3y]

I often see Falco players try to combo a Dair into shine at very low percentage (like around 0%), but the shine often gets shielded because the stun is too short at these percentage.
I think dair to grab is a great unused mix-up for these situations.
I realize that if the dair is hit when the Falco is very close to the ground it might combo, but oftentimes this is not the case.
What do you think?

 

[michael_li]

shine grab i guess?! multishine? wavedash back and nair?

 

[Beat!]

Yeah, dair-->grab is good.

 

[ruhtraeel]

IMO if you delay your d-air enough, the shine should always hit

d-air grab I found is useful when you d-air someone from a platform and they DI it away so they're too far in front of you for your shine to hit

 

[Deleted member]

I often see Falco players try to combo a Dair into shine at very low percentage (like around 0%), but the shine often gets shielded because the stun is too short at these percentage.
I think dair to grab is a great unused mix-up for these situations.
I realize that if the dair is hit when the Falco is very close to the ground it might combo, but oftentimes this is not the case.
What do you think?

i think dair > shinegrab is better.

 

[Swann]

i think dair > shinegrab is better.

Agreed

Mixups off of this are great. Consistent dair > shinegrab pressure forces rolls, to boot.

 

[RedGamer]

Consistent dair > shinegrab pressure forces rolls, to boot.

unless they are smart enough to spot dodge. (note: do NOT try this with C. Falcon/Samus)

 

[ElloEddy]

dair-- dair -- shine is also good when you cross them up ...or keep dairing and see if they can get used to it lol (troll falco mode)

 

[ElloEddy]

unless they are smart enough to spot dodge. (note: do NOT try this with C. Falcon/Samus)

or bowser cant aerial shine his shield cause his up-b out is faster then the shine -__- it like how samus just up-b's out all the time