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D-throw vs U-throw

Aggromidget

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I can't seem to find frame data for these two throws. I'd very much like to know which one has more frames from when it ends to when the opponent hits the (tech-able) ground. I understand that weight affects the results heavily (e.g maybe puff won't even hit the tech-able ground), so perhaps if someone could provide some knowledge of these throws on the more popular characters; ie, falco, fox, marth, sheik.
Basically, I'm still working on my technique for tech-chase regrabbing.
Wizzrobe did a short test with Plup on his stream recently when I requested the u-throw test on fox, and it seemed that fox can DI away quite far (thanks wizzy).
 

Nicco

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Uthrow isn't affected by weight. I'm pretty sure dthrow will always make the fast-fallers hit the ground faster. Not sure about dthrow on falcon. Uthrow might work better.

Sheik wont hit the ground with uthrow im sure.
 

TerryJ

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I couldn't find the frame data for any of his throws so I went and figured them out myself. I made a post about it on the second page of the frame data thread here.

Here's a quote of my post:

Up throw is not effected by weight and ends on 43.
Forward Throw is not effected by weight and ends on 39.
Back Throw is not effected by weight and ends on 49.
[collapse= Down Throw: (There's a thread by Magus I think that talks about calculating this based on weight)]
Fox: 40
Marth: 39.08
Peach: 40
Falco: 38.75
Bowser: 39.32
Sheik: 40
 

Aggromidget

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I couldn't find the frame data for any of his throws so I went and figured them out myself. I made a post about it on the second page of the frame data thread here.
Just to clarify your post, are the numbers related to how long the throw lasts or how many frames falcon has before the opponent techs?
 

TerryJ

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Just to clarify your post, are the numbers related to how long the throw lasts or how many frames falcon has before the opponent techs?
It's how long the throw lasts. After X amount of frames you're able to move. You'd have to test with DI on each character if you want to find out when they tech.
 

Aggromidget

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It's how long the throw lasts. After X amount of frames you're able to move. You'd have to test with DI on each character if you want to find out when they tech.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
 
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