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Critique my Marth!!!

Havokbringer

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Hey everybody , finally going to get some of my Marth videos for you all to watch.Hopefully you enjoy them and maybe give me some helpful suggestions(if you think I need it).By the way I'm Ky , later.

Ky vs. The___Cheese
Match 1
Match 2

Ky vs. Geek
Match 1
Match 2: Really good ending!

P.S: If you would like to watch some more just search for "Jotaro12343" or "Thefinalkefka".
 

Havokbringer

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Well there's no point in chain grabbing Peach and C.Falcon , because it only works from 0%-10%(unless the person is an idiot).Even then my crewmates aren't amateurs and they know how to DI it away or they simply jab me out of it.Thank you for your post though.Keep them coming.
 

maximus omega

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I know that but im just sayin you do chain grab though vs fox falco that was all, it prob came out wrong.
 

Cereal Rabbit

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Your Marth has good speed and technicality. Just throw more in your gameplay, it can link up to tilts and smashes.
 

ArcNatural

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The Falcon needs to learn how to dashdance grab...

Anyway I think the Falcon matchups were very predictable. But there really is no point in telling you to change anything if the Falcon will repeatedly techchase towards you and jump into you while your attacking. What you did worked, no reason to change it. You may want to try doing different things in situations that you know happened a lot. Like he likes to shffl into you without paying attention to what your doing, so just wait for it and uptilt him instead.

As for the Peach ones well, the Peach really didn't know how to kill or edgegaurd Marth at all. He/She needs to find or ask for help in that regard. You edgegaurded fine and spaced pretty well.

Overall I think you played fine against those players. But a lot of your attack patterns and strategies were really straight forward and could have been avoided. You won't learn to vary it up or change your tactics until your opponents get smarter at reading your approaches and defensive strategies. You shielded a lot when they approached you, when you dashdanced you typically dash attacked or shffld unless you were following from a tech chase. The problem is you can easily just say you didn't have to get any more advanced because they weren't even close to beating it. They needed more tips and advice than you do at the moment.
 

Havokbringer

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umm you can't chain grab either Peach or CF so yea...

What were the songs used in both 1st matches ^_^?
I will get back to you on that because I have to look over all the music i used but to narrow it down it was from the FF7 Crisis Core OST.

Cereal Rabbit:Thank you for your feedback and I have been meaning to develop more grab in my game.Thanks:)

Acrnatural:Yea my attack patterns need some work and also my predidctablity , I just needed somebody to tell me that before I got serious in changing it a bit , Thanks.I'll definetly keep the Up-tilt in mind against C.Falcon since I know what your talking about seeing how that i do it against falcos predictable approach.

Thank you everybody for your feedback , glab none of it was any sort of flame , I am going to be puttting up more vids later on so hopefully I can count on you guys once again to critique my marth.Thanks:)
 

flaco

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umm you can't chain grab either Peach or CF so yea...

What were the songs used in both 1st matches ^_^?
correction you could if they bad di but you missed alot of good spots to do combos and also you were a little nervouse i could tell also work on your l cancel man and please short hop you did short hop but do it 24 7 and jump high when you need to bro i hope these helped you but good job
 

Havokbringer

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correction you could if they bad di but you missed alot of good spots to do combos and also you were a little nervouse i could tell also work on your l cancel man and please short hop you did short hop but do it 24 7 and jump high when you need to bro i hope these helped you but good job
Thing is we are assuming that they don't have bad DI , which in my case, they don't.Nervous????No sorry man I wasn't nervous these are "Freindlies" not tourney matches and even then I only get nervous playing the ranked players in norcal like Lunin or Silent Spectre.L-cancel is something I don't practice and your to vague on your advice to not short hop 24 7 and jump high when I need too.From what I understand Marth doesn't have too much priority undder him so it's best to have your opponent at eye level or above you , so short hopping too much isn't the case especially in these matches but I'll get more videos up soon because I have to admit this isn't my best yet.Thank you for your comments though , they are much appreciated!!:)
 

The___cheese

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It's hard to techchase/constantly fool someone you play every day...

Edit: It will be easy as **** one match, but hard as hell another match, it's really random since we play so much.
 

Nuada

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your to vague on your advice to not short hop 24 7 and jump high when I need too.From what I understand Marth doesn't have too much priority undder him so it's best to have your opponent at eye level or above you , so short hopping too much isn't the case especially in these matches but I'll get more videos up soon because I have to admit this isn't my best yet.Thank you for your comments though , they are much appreciated!!:)
I think he means you don't short hop enough, you full jump too much. Looked to me like you intended to short hop at some points but accidentally full jumped some fairs
 

Havokbringer

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No I do Full jump double fairs , which if done fast enough , the first fair will still hit them or thier shield and then come down with a second fair or a Natural cancelled Nair (which is a nair very close to the ground to the point that it's automatically cancelled by the floor and gves less frames of lag then L-cancel would).I Don't do it in the videos(I think) but I don't accidenty do anything I don't want to(unless it's a downsmash or up smash).Point is though I like your comments on my videos but they are things you could never know if I'm doing on purpose or not , now if you said do less short hops or full jump into "w/e"then I would understand but all that really depends in the situation your in or the style you play even the people you play.I guess it's my fault tho maybe I should put more videos up for you all to watch because this is all casual and not to serious so I will definetly get more vids up for you all to comment.Thank you for your feedback.:D
 

Superninjabreadman

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All I saw was a little Faulty edgeguarding... Combos need a little work.. but im a fan of Ken.. so I supose your fine. Nice job. Nice Aerial A down at around 1:14 in the first vid against Geek.

Edit: Alot of the Videos i've seen of Marth on Smashboards almost never have a counter in them.. (if not there are only afew..). Im just wondering why no Elitists/Competitive players really use counter.
 

Havokbringer

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Well if you watch Cort's marth against PC Chris's fox then you'll see counters all day.(Just type in "raserucort" in the youtube search and after that click his account and you'll see all his matches.Oh and I use counter alot but only really against space animals.(especially against Falco).Thank you for your comments:D.
 
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