Critique my Marth please.

[Uck]

Hi all I was an exclusive Link player and decided to play as Marth for the past month.
I could use some advice please from you pros.I only have two videos at the moment I wish I had more.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va4wqevKOlU Uck-Marth vs Gibz-Falco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AskeUexE7zA Uck-Blue Marth vs God- Black Marth *This guy doesnt know many advance techs but he comes to our house to participate anyhow.

 

[ArcNatural]

Ok not bad but a few things I noticed.

1. Learn to aerial with the c-stick, especially if your hitting late. It looks like your used to doing Link's nair only and you have not been able to use Marth's fair appropriately. Learn to use Marth's fair over the nair for the most part.

2. Practice spacing, if you can space so your nair's and fair's hit with the tip it will make your Marth very hard to shield grab.

3. Other than when your chaingrabbing fox or falco with upthrow. You really don't want to be hitting them during the grab animation. Grab and throw ASAP. When you can do this Forward throw or back throw -> F-smash and upthrow -> aerial combos will come easier.

4. I might as well mention that you can practice short hop double fairs. Not as important, but common methods to do this are sh and use A or Z to do the first fair then c-stick the second. This will help you get comfortable using the c-stick.

 

[SOPF]

Sorry if the following is completely negative but one can only learn from criticism.

Ok, the first and foremost thing I saw with your Marth is your complete and total overuse (wow that sounds weird to say in a Marth critique) but yes overuse of the F-smash. I understand you're new to Marth and most beginners go through the whole "F-smashing until it hits" stage but that will not work on upper level players. When you use it repetitively it becomes predictable and predictability will be your downfall.
On to the second thing. I noticed that you seem to not use the Fair that often. Know now that the Fair is a staple in Marth use. It sets up combos and is very quick which allows it to be used stealthily. Learn to use it correctly and I promise you that your Marth will improve.
Third thing. Your Marth seems very grounded. You should learn to approach with SHFFL'd aerials rather then just walking up and f-smashing or grabbing (not to say those aren't good approach methods when used sparingly but not how much you used them.

The following things are more situation focused:
In your vid against the Falco at 1:37 you threw the Falco up and then waited on the ground for him so you could land a, you guessed it, F-smash. Luckily, you were able to hit the Falco with that very predictable attack but such won't be the case on upper level smashers. When your opponent is open in the air like that you should take that moment of vulnerability and sieze it. You should have followed that throw up with a Fair or Nair.
In the vid against the Marth I noticed a few problems.
Once again, at the beginning of the match when the opposing Marth was in the air you just remained grounded. You should have gone for the aerial offensive.
Sorry about repeating myself but, at :43 you had the opportunity to throw out a SH aerial on your opponent. I think if you would have hit with the right part of the sword you could have even landed a Ken Combo and any time spent not Kening when you could be is time poorly spent. LOL.
The last thing, at 1:28 you grabbed your opponent and then just stood there. Why? Atleast hit him with the little kneeing thing never just stand there.
Well, I hope this was helpful.

 

[Uck]

Thanks for the advice.In my defence I just have been practicing getting used to handling Marth against opponents.So I havent been focusing on proven methods but more of trial and error.This way I can retain more experiance when I start applying proper marth usage so to speak.

I noticed just like you that I liked staying on the ground.I hope I fixed this when I start using fair much more.

@ 1:28 I just grabbed my opponent and did nothing because he was not a threat and I was having some fun.

I did notice how much I foward smashed though.Its a bit hard not to when my friends fall for it so much.I have been working on using my Fair alot more though I found it a bit akward at first.

I have no idea why I was up throwing Falco to uptilt.That made me laugh so hard when I saw it.I guess im used to Links uptilt to much >< I have been working on making it a habit to practice chaingrabs low percentages since.

 

[Imperial Wraith]

Well, the above posters have covered much of what I was going to say, so I'll leave it out.

One thing I don't think was pointed out was your choice of moves, especially when retreating. For instance, when I saw you were close to Falco, you rolled behind him and WDed away. It would have been much more effective to dashdance into a grab, and take it from there. Its just little things like that you need to work on, which will imrpove your marh immensely.

 

[edgeswipe21]

wow dude that is an awsome marth. I see ur play style, very calm and controlling, i wouldn't tell u to change ur style and focus on being fast and technical. i think its u have an ideal style for marth player . very nice. Watch some ken videos and learn since i m not an expert in ur style of plau.