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critique my fox

Peppers

Smash Apprentice
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vry nicr
try to play other better players
it seems like u hve a vry offensive based style of play
wen u play dif characters(marth for example) u learn a defensive game
ex. shl, shffl nair ect.
all im tryin to say is get a dif variety of players to better improve ur game other then that those wer vry nice matches
 

Zgetto

Smash Ace
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there isnt alot to say about your fox, cause you seem to have a good technical fox and know how to play against sheik.

all i can say is that if you only play the same friend who plays with sheik only, you really need to learn to fight against some other matchup too(that comes advantually when you play them)
but if you know how to play against other matchups and play just like against this sheik then it should be alright.
 

takieddine

Smash Master
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take advantage of Free shinespikes when you are hanging on the ledge...basically you are still invincible, and it pretty much guarantees a stock off of shiek.

You have a nice grab game though, and you have exploited sheik's main fox weakness uthrow uair juggle, keep it up.
 

froz3ntear

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thanks for the advice everyone.

Yeah, I noticed that while watching the vids too... that when I grab the edge and get invincibility frames, I shouldn't just get up, but should shine instead... thanks ^^.
 

alcheato

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Pretty good, man. As already mentioned, take free shinespikes when you can get them. Also there were a few times when you could've gone in for a dash into a jump-canceled up-smash for the kill so try to work those into your game. Very nice though.
 

froz3ntear

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Pretty good, man. As already mentioned, take free shinespikes when you can get them. Also there were a few times when you could've gone in for a dash into a jump-canceled up-smash for the kill so try to work those into your game. Very nice though.
haha thanks. A lot of people have told me that I need to upsmash more... but I have a fear or running in an upsmashing without a set combo (shine usmash). Thanks again for the advice.
 

FastFox

Faster than most vehicles
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You have a decent Fox, although you didn't take advantage of the shine outside of cancelling your aerials into it. You need to work on your edgeguarding, especially against a Sheik. You did handle the sheik well though. U-airs are the way to go.
 

froz3ntear

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You have a decent Fox, although you didn't take advantage of the shine outside of cancelling your aerials into it. You need to work on your edgeguarding, especially against a Sheik. You did handle the sheik well though. U-airs are the way to go.

Thx. I'm usually scared to shine... especially sheik with her recovery invincibility frames and im afraid of her coming back and punching me into the stage... it always happens lol..
 

FastFox

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If you're getting scared to do, say, a running shine, what I like to do is something like a double shine, only the timing of the next shine is more varied so that it hits the top of the shield (if the enemy does shield, that is), and prevents a grab, which is especially important if you're playing a Sheik. It will also hit before they can jump out of their shield with an aerial. You can simply shine, jump out of that shine, then shine again around the head area of the character. What I usually do is proceed to jump out of the second shine with another aerial, or you can simply run clean away.

Wow, that's a lot of shines.
 

froz3ntear

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If you're getting scared to do, say, a running shine, what I like to do is something like a double shine, only the timing of the next shine is more varied so that it hits the top of the shield (if the enemy does shield, that is), and prevents a grab, which is especially important if you're playing a Sheik. It will also hit before they can jump out of their shield with an aerial. You can simply shine, jump out of that shine, then shine again around the head area of the character. What I usually do is proceed to jump out of the second shine with another aerial, or you can simply run clean away.

Wow, that's a lot of shines.
Thanks for the advice. I've been forgetting that option, jumping and shining. I probably won't double shine, I think i'm more of the shine and run away... depending if im at the edge or not... I won't fight a sheik at the edge... one grab and poof, throw and easiest edge guard possible. lol.

I haven't been playing for the last 2 weeks and there's a nor cal biweekly this saturday... So I may not even play fox, because I've been missing L-cancels... even the easy one like full hop drill shines.
 

FastFox

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Well what's good about jumping shines is the opponent's tendency to try and grab. While they're there trying to grab you, you're already above them coming down with a nair or something.
 

Razed

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I'd recommend using SHL some. Itgives you a good 25-40% advantage in a match, and also can be used to antagonize your opponent into making costly mistakes.
 

FastFox

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If you go to youtube and search for FastFox, my Fox vs. IC's will come up. I'd never played the IC's before, so I had no idea how to handle them. I used the SHL on multiple occasions to confuse the IC player.
 

froz3ntear

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If you go to youtube and search for FastFox, my Fox vs. IC's will come up. I'd never played the IC's before, so I had no idea how to handle them. I used the SHL on multiple occasions to confuse the IC player.
lol how do lasers confuse ICs. They don't even tickle
 

FastFox

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If you go to youtube and search for FastFox, my Fox vs. IC's will come up. I'd never played the IC's before, so I had no idea how to handle them. I used the SHL on multiple occasions to confuse the IC player.
Lasers are my friend.
 

Moggie

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That last kill in the first video was pretty thug.

Anyways, try some more shffl'd drills -> shine -> wavedash. They lead to more grab and u-airs, which as you know are a Fox's best weapon against a Shiek.
 
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