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Critique my Fox please

Oskurito

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Waveshine? I personally don't like your fox I dislike to see full jumps and your opponent wasn't to good. I'll like to see your fox but against shine comboable characters to see how can you handle them.

Apart from that you have good tech skill, work on waveshine though(or post another video to change mi mind about your waveshining skills)

AH I forgot to tell you that Nair pillar> jab was pretty cool but your friend doesn't know to buffer a roll right?
 

Wilhelmsan

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Ehhh, maybe a vid that isn't a Fox ditto on FD. Those are teh lame.

I can't really tell how good you are, but I'll offer some advice.

-Don't DI fox's chaingrab off the edge, you're asking to get shinespiked->edgeguarded
-When you DD camp waiting for your opponent to get up...stay a little closer.
-Work on your spacing (this one is really important)
 

D. Disciple

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I can waveshine, I didn't see the point of doing it against an opponent that falls when you shine them.

But yeah most of the vids are against Zeus' Fox and Falco, funny how you said Zeus wasn't good when it's the same person in the other topic.
 

FastFox

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The point of waveshining someone who falls is to Thunder's Combo them. Look at the thread if you don't know what I'm talking about.

Also, full jumps are alright, as long as they're into either nairs or bairs and include a fastfall, then a shine.
 

Oskurito

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:( I was going to tell him that.

Waveshine>jab>uair>upsmash>grab ETC. OWNS! and has many variations
 

D. Disciple

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Thunder's combo huh, yeah I'll take a look at that later, when I'm not in school. But yeah, Zeus loves to cg my Fox a lot on FD so I've got to find other ways around it, in one of the vids I tech to save my life when he was cging me to death and tried to end it with a dthrow.
 

Goldkirby

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When you DI the chaingrabs, try mixing the DI directions a little. For example, maybe sometimes DI twice in front, then once to the back, or don't DI at all. Just putting variation in your DI can screw the chaingrab up.
 

SCOTU

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yeah, you can break out of a fox v fox chaingrab w/ no DI and a shine at 32-34% (but they could u-tilt you. Nice shine spiking, but i don't approve of his choices of when/where to illusion.
 

Wilhelmsan

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Okay, let me get you started on the Fox vs. Peach matchup. I'm sure you have an okay idea of how it's done, I'm just going to make some points.

-Shoot lasers at her when she's at least 1/2 Firefox away from you, if she gets closer..it's probably too risky
-Do not, I repeat DO NOT ever try to uair Peach when she's on a platform above you. It's just not even worth the risk of being dsmashed like that
-Peach will be outprioritizing your aerials in almost every scenario, so don't clash with her in the air
-Dair->Waveshine->Upsmash if she ever gets above your target percent; why deal damage you don't need?

You're pretty good, work on your techskill (as always), work on your mental game (as always). Keep up the good fox.
 

Oskurito

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Lasers? I think that if you play more defensive with a little more lasers and shield grabs it would be better.

He doesn't need to work on tech skill he needs strategy
 

D. Disciple

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Yeah I know about the strats of playing a defensive style against Peach, Oskurito. I'm practicing on working on different ways of killing a good peach player, to see if other things can work out for me as well.

Ah well I can stay to camping lasers at a peach then mindgame them into getting an usmash on them, and doing hit and run tactics on them all day with Fox, no biggie.
 
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