Critique my falcon!

[practice_mAn]

I play blood falcon. I heard he's better than the regular.


anyways... im really bad at my sheik matchup and I need help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKkH0T1LQ30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dolTBSSvh-4&feature=channel

Also critique my fox and jiggly matchup!

Fox:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KEIOHMFc1Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbQQ2-1UNCE&feature=related

Jiggly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NKSPLyZXpU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeN7roDHiKs&feature=related

Falcon ditto matchup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnZctIHpKV0

(there are more related videos that were recorded if you look in the related video section)

I'm learning to be a better falcon. But I really don't like the sheik matchup. Fox is a fun matchup for me! I enjoy the fast pace of it. Please help me practice.... as my name is practice_man. You can help me by giving me honest constructive criticism! Thanks!

PS: I won't mind if you're harsh with me and tell me about my bad habits. I'll enjoy the truth, trust me.

 

[Zolios]

You have a very good falcon. I would say try to interpret how your opponent is trying to edgeguard so you can vary the way you get off the edge. It's hardest to do with falcon. Especially against Jiggs, because if you attack, and your opponent predicts it, easy rest.

Uhh, in the sheik matchup, when an opponent has too much hitstun that they can't attack (Forcing them to tech, such as the uthrow to the PS platform in the first video) it's best to knee really.

I can't really say much, you seem like you would be on the PR from your playstyle. Hum.

 

[Bizzarro Flame]

Lol, he's far away from being on the PR list. He's improving though, all it needs is practice and experience.

Edit: Regarding critique, You tend to hold shield when you are being pressured, which forces you to panic. The best solution is to DON'T DO IT. Do the right thing

 

[Zolios]

Lol, he's far away from being on the PR list. He's improving though, all it needs is practice and experience.

Edit: Regarding critique, You tend to hold shield when you are being pressured, which forces you to panic. The best solution is to DON'T DO IT. Do the right thing

I didn't notice he lived in California >_>

Lol.

Maybe in Hawaii though or something.

 

[Bizzarro Flame]

I didn't notice he lived in California >_>

Lol.

Maybe in Hawaii though or something.

If he did live in Hawaii, then your speculations would most likely be correct =D

But sorry, this is southern California, Mango won't allow P-Man to be on the list just yet.

 

[ETWIST51294]

In the fox falcon match I think you need to use more nairs to keep the pressure on fox. I learned that from Darkrain.

 

[practice_mAn]

Uhh, in the sheik matchup, when an opponent has too much hitstun that they can't attack (Forcing them to tech, such as the uthrow to the PS platform in the first video) it's best to knee really.

I dont know why I didn't throw out a knee... I think I hit the C-stick too early

Oh well it wasn't my controller but I tried my best with it.

Anyway thanks for your criticism! I need more!

and LOL bizzarro flame DONT DO IT!

 

[demodemo]

lol you play so much like me, but better

its like painful to watch, especially since my friend plays sheik too

anyway, one thing that i like to do against sheik is pretty simple..

around 30+ i just uthrow upair, and if they DI it, whatever, if they dont, i can get in multiple uairs, maybe even a combo to knee if the percentage is right. at around like i think 60 or so, if they DI the uair properly, they can be edgegaurded, which is pretty easy. Wait for up b > punish lag with ledgehopped knee. but of course they can mindgame you and go for the edge, but that's another story ^^ I see you kept going for knees (and missing) when you oculd have connected with upairs

as for first 30%, i just use nairs (can't get in with anything else lol) and hopfully a grab, dthrow to techchase until 30

so basically get all the hits in you can possibly get, and just KO by edgegaurding. thats the safest and what i find the most effective way to play offensively. I'm not that good either, but that's what ive learned from playing my friend ^^

oh btw sheik shield pressure is stupid -_- I basically just run off and hope he follows me lol

edit- ops watched the second match, which is much better. you dont do ledgehopped nairs for some reason though

 

[practice_mAn]

lol you play so much like me, but better

its like painful to watch, especially since my friend plays sheik too

anyway, one thing that i like to do against sheik is pretty simple..

around 30+ i just uthrow upair, and if they DI it, whatever, if they dont, i can get in multiple uairs, maybe even a combo to knee if the percentage is right. at around like i think 60 or so, if they DI the uair properly, they can be edgegaurded, which is pretty easy. Wait for up b > punish lag with ledgehopped knee. but of course they can mindgame you and go for the edge, but that's another story ^^ I see you kept going for knees (and missing) when you oculd have connected with upairs

as for first 30%, i just use nairs (can't get in with anything else lol) and hopfully a grab, dthrow to techchase until 30

so basically get all the hits in you can possibly get, and just KO by edgegaurding. thats the safest and what i find the most effective way to play offensively. I'm not that good either, but that's what ive learned from playing my friend ^^

oh btw sheik shield pressure is stupid -_- I basically just run off and hope he follows me lol

edit- ops watched the second match, which is much better. you dont do ledgehopped nairs for some reason though

thanks for the critique! I'll keep the first paragraph in mind when I play against another sheik. But anyway, I usually don't ledge hop attack anymore because its hella risky, and if you get hit while doing it you die.

Edit: by the way I used to ledgehop nair 90% of the time off the ledge. when playing competitively I would usually die half the time because of it. Only use it in certain situations!

 

[demodemo]

hmm maybe the sheik i play with isnt good enough, can you tell me what you do instead of ledgehop nair? that is by far the safest option i have found.

and i guess im not paying enough attention lol, from what i remember i kept seeing you do ledgehop uair or something, maybe im crazy

edit- hold on, i think i know where you are coming from now, if the sheik reads the ledgehop nair, they can fair you, but they can't fair the uair? my friend usually edgeguards with dsmash so ive never thought about this

 

[practice_mAn]

hmm maybe the sheik i play with isnt good enough, can you tell me what you do instead of ledgehop nair? that is by far the safest option i have found.

it depends on the situation

If I know he isn't going to hit me with an attack while I ledgehop to attack, I will ledgehop attack. But that's not the case most of the time so I usually wavedash onto the stage or roll.

 

[Kira-]

just watched you vs phenom #3

low percents knee to grab works

you never abuse dashdance camping! dashdance camp to grab or nair is melee rule #1 with falcon! instead you throw out random nairs or knees in front of them but that just gives him a chance to attack you right after. you can do nairs in place if you're far enough from him though, then he gets baited cuz he tries to punish but you're too far away (think of it as approach spacing) so you can move away in time. EXAMPLE: you do a sh nair a little too far from him but close enough so he tries to attack, fox runs in with a sh nair, you dash dance out of the way and come back to grab him. that was confusing but you can ask me if you want clarification

make sure to sweetspot the ledge with your 2nd jump! you can grab it from pretty low.

people (especially newer players) love getup attacks when they miss techs. to bait this out you have 3 options. run up to shield (then grab), run up close then back out (dashdance) to whatever move you want, or run up close then jump and stomp as they getup attack.

upthrow to fsmash at like 70 ish? and higher
upthrow to knee at about 110 i believe, regardless of DI. get those guaranteed kills out of your grab, you can do it to all characters (dthrow puff, upthrow marth until 100ish then dthrow, upthrow sheik, etc etc). M2K knows his percents a little too well, watch what he does to learn how to punish.

tell phenom at 2:55 he should dash attack to upsmash. works on a lot of characters at high percent. freakin connor used to abuse that soo much i hate it

tech chasing is a pretty refined art, just watch good falcons and try to emulate them. usually if the fox tech rolls you can get him, but if he techs in place its' hard to react in time, so alternate stomps in place with waiting to see which way they roll. theres a lot more to it (if they roll away and you think they can spotdodge before you'll get to them then sh stomp/knee to get their spotdodge) but it's kinda long and i dont know it with falcon as well. plus if you learn it yourself it works better for some reason. also if you're fast you can do a knee in place, and if they roll away you can run up and grab them. this pretty much covers every single tech option which is pretty broken lol

your overall control of your character needs to be smoothed out a bit, that gets fixed just by playing a lot cause you're still relatively new to the game

uhh some other stuff i do with falcon

at anything but low percents, nair will knock them on the ground and they usually dont tech, so i like to nair > knee in place to get quick kills. at low percents nair leads to grab most of the time unless they expect it. if they expect it watch what they do to avoid it (roll/spotdodge/jump) and punish that

watch out for when most people miss techs so you can get an easy stomp. like a knee at low-mid percents to stomp (dont have to watch where they tech, just predict and throw a stomp out immediately)

if they dont DI your first upthrow, use Dsmash to cover 3 options at once (tech in place, tech behind, no tech). this doesnt work on falco but fox's tech rolls are really short. also this is good cause it gives you an opportunity to learn their tech pattern and still cover a ton of options. you can also use this if you get them near the ledge, they have nowhere to go lol (if they tech away they are stuck at the ledge)

im terrible at using side B so dont ask me. other real falcons could help you with more specific stuff, this is just basics pretty much

and uhh.... if you ledgehop a nair quick enough you'll still have a bit of ledge invincibility to stop any early attacks. ledgestall a few times if you dont have it. ledge invincibility ***** soo hard



hope this helps, it's a LOT so just master one thing at a time, dont try to do everything at once
if you have any more questions just pm or visitor message or w/e

oh and
even though you coulda just kneed/fsmashed,
upthrow angled ftilt to taunt was amazing lool

 

[practice_mAn]

thanks kira!

lol I thought you were going to help me with the sheik matchup, as you are a sheik player, but the fox/falcon matchup critique was helpful

thank you very much!

 

[practice_mAn]

someone critique my falcon more

 

[Adam M!]

falcon v sheik:

:11: if you think he's gonna tech in place, knee. what i would do though is wait and uair because it covers all options (as long as you wait for the tech) and getting that low percentage damage is CRITICAL. if you're really good you can knee no matter where he techs but uair is easier and therefore safer (though knee is obviously optimal)

:19: nipple spike or uair to punish

:22: wait until the 2nd hit pushes you back (sheik's dsmash has 3 hits) and either uair or knee or stomp to punish

:33 nair to ****

:44 nair out of shield since he misspaced

you need tech skill. if you can't hit grab to knee 100% of the time something is wrong.

2:13: as falcon especially you always gotta be ready for the tech in place. this is a knee and a stock (he'd WC DI it)

2:22: knee to edge guard (edge guarding sheik is super easy so you always wanna set up edge guards whenever you can)

2:29: don't attack from the ledge noob, and DEFINITELY don't shield after you do. waveland to roll or waveland to run since he was nowhere near you.

random things:

i like your gentlemen's

i like your dash dance camping

protip: one of the hardest things to do is play this game and not shield, but you really don't want to shield. always keep moving moving moving, especially as a falcon. in fact that is the main thing that i think led to s2j's rapid improvement.