Controllers

[mastermoo420]

I had a question about using controllers. If you could connect a GameCube controller to the PC via a converter, would it still work? Would you just have to map the actions to the correct buttons?

Also, if it does work, what's a good adapter?

 

[P D]

yes
maybe my pic isnt showing up. i suggest super joy box 13

 

[mastermoo420]

Alright, thanks. If anyone knows the cheapest site to get one, I'd be really thankful, too. P:

 

[Smasherx74]

Or use a Ps3 controller.

 

[mastermoo420]

But they're obviously going to be more expensive.

Worst case scenario, an adapter will cost MAYBE $30. PS3 controllers easily go up to $30 and it's not rare to see a $45 controller.

 

[NixxxoN]

Lol PS2/PS3 controller is terrible for smash.

 

[M15t3R E]

Lol PS2/PS3 controller is terrible for smash.

So what do you use? N64 controller? All other controllers have been laughed at before for SSB64.

 

[P D]

So what do you use? N64 controller? All other controllers have been laughed at before for SSB64.

GC, you get epic di.

adapters cost 15 bucks

 

[M15t3R E]

I couldn't find any PC - GC adapters in stock online.

 

[NixxxoN]

So what do you use? N64 controller? All other controllers have been laughed at before for SSB64.

I use Hori Minipad to play on console and its great, sadly there is no adapter that works with it, but I've tried PS2 controller and its indeed terrible to play smash (main problem the crappy stick)
I've been told that XBOX 360 controller is decent to play smash (has a good joystick) and it has USB connection.
Also gamecube controller is good if you dont mind about the different right buttons setup

 

[Skrlx]

xbox 360 controller is da bess

 

[sharksquail]

I use an 64 controller. I get epic realness.

 

[Ownasaurus]

I've never written a driver before, but maybe I can write my first PC driver for the hori minipad! Except I would probably need a hori minipad to test and develop and I don't have one =\

 

[dandan]

I've never written a driver before, but maybe I can write my first PC driver for the hori minipad! Except I would probably need a hori minipad to test and develop and I don't have one =\

how is your assembly programming, to write an efficient driver (as response times need to be as low as can be, and you need low level programming to optimize).
if your assembly is not good, i would not even try this.
writing a driver is very complicated, that is why assembly programmers get paid so much.

 

[Smasherx74]

Lol PS2/PS3 controller is terrible for smash.

Who said i use my ps3 controller for smash? I use my keyboard. I use ps3 controller for mario kart.

 

[Ownasaurus]

how is your assembly programming, to write an efficient driver (as response times need to be as low as can be, and you need low level programming to optimize).
if your assembly is not good, i would not even try this.
writing a driver is very complicated, that is why assembly programmers get paid so much.

My ASM is meh, perhaps it would take me too long to write a good one then. We'll see.

 

[NixxxoN]

My ASM is meh, perhaps it would take me too long to write a good one then. We'll see.

You can surely be helped by a default N64 controller driver code, but Im not sure if its possible or not.
Its basically about changing the stick setup, as the rest apparently works well...?

 

[Ownasaurus]

You can surely be helped by a default N64 controller driver code, but Im not sure if its possible or not.
Its basically about changing the stick setup, as the rest apparently works well...?

If there are open sources available, that would help greatly as probably only a few parameters have to be tweaked if only the stick is messed up. Also, I just checked MSDN and it seems almost all windows drivers are written in C or C++ - right up my alley.

 

[dandan]

You can surely be helped by a default N64 controller driver code, but Im not sure if its possible or not.
Its basically about changing the stick setup, as the rest apparently works well...?

the driver is in assembly, reading it is not that simple, it is not an easy high level source code you can just read and alter. this requires a lot of knowledge and experience, as other than being able to program, you have to be able to do it really efficetly. moreover, you have to know how to interface with the os on low level.

anyhow, there is a reason why they did not release a new driver for this as this is quite a lot of work.

 

[NixxxoN]

Ok then, Im pretty sure it would not be mission impossible to get some driver source code from some adapter that is already old and no longer on sale.
I dont think modifying the stick setting from an existant driver is a lot of work dan.
And Owna would be GOD if he did this lol

 

[dandan]

changing source code, might not be hard, but obtaining source code is another thing alltogether.
the copmanies that made the adapters have no real reason in releasing their source code.
anyhow i am doubtful this will be done, but it will be good if it will be (even though i do not even own an hori minipad so i do not really care)

 

[Ownasaurus]

Maybe I'll be more inclined to do this if someone bribed me with a mini pad XD... I mean, I can't do any testing without it lol. But seriously, if I have free time I'll do some more research on developing win32 drivers.

 

[mastermoo420]

Who said i use my ps3 controller for smash? I use my keyboard. I use ps3 controller for mario kart.

What? How do you do SH's and tilts?

 

[Smasherx74]

What? How do you do SH's and tilts?

lol, You got to do a move, then while the animation for the move is still being in place you hold the arrow key to which ever spot. Also short hop you just tap the button.