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Control Scheme?

L@ST_Dinosaur

Smash Rookie
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Nov 2, 2014
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So, I want to hop on the 20XX train, I've been playing Fox for a couple months and I can't decide what buttons to use for certain things. Like, do most of you use the jump button to jump out of shine? Or Tap jumping? Also, What trigger do you use to wave dash? I just wanna know how everyone else plays so crazy.
 

Vorde

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I never use tapjump if I can help it, I always use X for my jumps and Y for SHL SHDL Waveshines and Multishining.
 

squirrels4ev

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Jul 16, 2011
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85
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Eugene, OR
When trying to decide on what buttons to use for different maneuvers you should practice your maneuvers with different inputs and see which way you can do it best. One thing I've been trying to work on recently is switching my L-cancel input from L to Z so that I can't mess up and full press L (thus losing my tech option temporarily). It's naturally uncomfortable for me, but I know if I master the movement my play will objectively be better.

I use Y for all of my jump inputs, but when I was learning to SHDL I still tried to use tap jump to see if it would be better. I was able to perform one using the control stick sooner than I could using Y, but I realized that I would only be able to do them consistently while I was standing still if used the control stick to jump, so I practiced my Y->B sliding motion more until it was fast enough for me to SHDL.

Another random tidbit about my experience with selecting the method best for me for inputting button presses: I used to play Marth when I got started with competitive melee. Marth's standing grab is much better than his dash grab (except for getting "reverse" grabs, if I recall correctly). Because of this, I needed to be able to JC grab, which I did with Y and Z. At the time, I only used my first finger to press both R and Z, and because I wavedash with R, I had to move my finger back and forth a lot. It was messing up my wavedashing, so I had to teach myself to grip the controller differently, with my first finger on Z and my middle one on R. At first I couldn't wavedash anymore, but with practice I was able to fix that.

My experience with learning techskill and honing my movement has been that practicing my inputs "in the lab" is the best way to improve. If you spot a flaw with your choice in buttons that could be fixed by pressing buttons differently, you should fix your inputs sooner rather than later, even if it's a little uncomfortable at first. If you practice a movement enough, your muscle memory will make it comfortable for you eventually, even if it doesn't feel that way to begin with.
 

JoeTango

It Takes Two
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May 29, 2014
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126
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Florida
As everyone said, do what is most comfortable for you. However also keep in mind you can change it up depending on the situation. For waveshining I use X but for shine spiking I use tap jump. At the end of the day it really is just your personal preference (except for certain things like SHDL and what not)
 
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Mr. S

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Oct 11, 2014
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84
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Ann Arbor, MI
Even with SHDL, it's all personal preference, but some options make it much harder to do some things (e.g. using tap jump for retreating SHDL). It's best to find a configuration that is both balanced and comfortable. Personally, I learned the muscle memory to use X for everything, and I have no problem with any execution despite being a technical player.
 
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