Competitve Boxing Ring

[aethermaster]

Okay so I was curious how likely it is that the Boxing Ring will legal or at considered as a counterpick? This is just speculation but is it being a walk off and the lights being campy really enough to ban that stage? I know Castle Siege was a moving stage but it still has walk offs. Also the Halberd was a counterpick too considering you get attacked early on by a hazard. Besides there aren't really any major stage hazards in the Ring unless you consider the lights but those are solely by player interaction and not completely random like cannon.

I know we'll still at least have the FD version should it get banned but the regular version looks so cool and I don't see much else wrong with it. Maybe its just me and there's a glaring hole in my logic?

 

[Xermo]

What you have to consider is that the flaws you listed on stages like Halberd and Siege are temporary. That's what kept them around for so long, even though both stages still got/get banned frequently.
Boxing Ring has a perma-walkoff, and a regenerating, destructible hazard. It'll most likely be banned.

 

[Raijinken]

It'll depend on the tournament op. Some people feel like the blast zones are far enough that the walkoffs will be dangerous to camp (due to the bubble damage). Others think a permanent walkoff is immediate grounds for banning.

Personally, I'm more concerned with people camping the top platform, but I'm starting wide and narrowing the list as needed, instead of cutting things and gradually expanding.

 

[aethermaster]

It'll depend on the tournament op. Some people feel like the blast zones are far enough that the walkoffs will be dangerous to camp (due to the bubble damage). Others think a permanent walkoff is immediate grounds for banning.

Personally, I'm more concerned with people camping the top platform, but I'm starting wide and narrowing the list as needed, instead of cutting things and gradually expanding.

That sounds good. I would think the top platform would be the biggest issue but considering you could bring it down it might be more viable that way? I'm only asking because I have a bias toward that stage and would prefer not to see it banned (even if it has a good FD form)

 

[Raijinken]

That sounds good. I would think the top platform would be the biggest issue but considering you could bring it down it might be more viable that way? I'm only asking because I have a bias toward that stage and would prefer not to see it banned (even if it has a good FD form)

The lights are back up within ten seconds. It's not like Luigi's Mansion or something where the unfavorable terrain is removed for long periods, it's just there, then falls, then it's back.

I like the stage, too, but there are valid concerns. But I think it's more important to start open and act when the concerns become a reality, rather than start narrow and ban over theory.

For instance, if a particular group of Smashers never has problems with camping because everyone is a hot-blooded hero that likes to rush down, it's really easy for them (as has always been my group's case) to see no reason to ban walkoffs, as "camping" them is never done and, when attempted, is thwarted by a quicker throw. Another example would be a group of players used to playing with the intent of knocking people into Brinstar's acid and the Mario Karts or using the acid to survive recoveries - They're used to applying skilled play to these hazards, and thus have a hard time seeing why so many tournaments only allow boring flat stages with a few mostly-static plataforms because hazards "detract from skilled play"(another self-example, FD is one of my least-favorite stages just because of how utterly boring it is).

 

[ryuu seika]

The biggest problem I see with the stage is Ninja Drop. If it works like it did in the demo, Kirby is able to kill any character at below 40% if he can grab them in the centre. That's gamebreaking.

 

[KaZe_DaRKWIND]

The biggest problem I see with the stage is Ninja Drop. If it works like it did in the demo, Kirby is able to kill any character at below 40% if he can grab them in the centre. That's gamebreaking.

I wonder if Charizard would do it too.

 

[ryuu seika]

I wonder if Charizard would do it too.

It would appear that this issue has been fixed as neither Kirby nor Charizard can kill this way until well above 100% anymore.
The stage is suddenly looking more viable.