Hi
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love playing super smash bros since i was 8, I am definitley not a good player and my favorite/ only characters I am half decent with is yoshi and ness. I play online too much mostly at Australia's only semi dedicated server Desiree. I use an xbox controller when i play online
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Im gonna keep this kinda short and simple because I am tired, please don't flame if this has been covered i haven't read some of the stickies yet.
Basically I think that character advantage exists in super smash bros 64. and I "partly" disagree with the tiers.
My view on character advantage is that certain match up's (up to a certain level of skill (meaning that it is mostly null for expert players like sima and takamitsu) ) are equal in the sense that one character has an advantage on another character.
My first notion of this came when I played a friend from school (Ciaza) in online project 64k. Ness vs Pikachu. He beats me nearly all the time. But what I find frustrating is that in my opinion pikachu has an advantage over ness. Mostly our games will be pretty even for the first stock
(my technique is mostly ness arial assualt with a few throw/dash mixtures. usually i finish off kills with a spike)
but then the game usually gets away for Ciaza to win with 1-2 stock remaining. this is mostly because he combats my arial easily with pikachus uair (tail flip thingy) and Fair (electricy tounge spin thing) which i am mostly impossible to combat when i am in certain circumstances. then all it takes is for him to get me off the edge then he edge guards which I find almost impossible to come back from except in the case of a lucky sweet spot with ness' up b. so Ciaza gets up one stock. then sometime later he will get me in a annoying "up a" combo when he is on the ground which i cannot remove myself from (pikachu flips tail up on ground and Im stuck in the same repeated move for about 60 damage including the continued combo Fair Uair) then all it takes is a thunder spike or an edge guard or forward smash and im screwed. Ciaza wins. The only cirumstance in which i think i have an advantage over ciaza is ness' Uair Up a and pika fire which gives me some very limited advantages but only in certain locations/circumstances. I find it very difficult to beat pikachu with ness mostly due to pikachu's very long edge guard range and the supreme advantage of the third recovery.
I know that sort of matches up with the tiers but i will post more detailed character match ups later, here are some more in my own opinion, more coming later
Please discuss
link>pikachu
falcon>link
kirby>pikachu
ness>kirby
ness>fox
fox>link
<background information>
love playing super smash bros since i was 8, I am definitley not a good player and my favorite/ only characters I am half decent with is yoshi and ness. I play online too much mostly at Australia's only semi dedicated server Desiree. I use an xbox controller when i play online
<end>
Im gonna keep this kinda short and simple because I am tired, please don't flame if this has been covered i haven't read some of the stickies yet.
Basically I think that character advantage exists in super smash bros 64. and I "partly" disagree with the tiers.
My view on character advantage is that certain match up's (up to a certain level of skill (meaning that it is mostly null for expert players like sima and takamitsu) ) are equal in the sense that one character has an advantage on another character.
My first notion of this came when I played a friend from school (Ciaza) in online project 64k. Ness vs Pikachu. He beats me nearly all the time. But what I find frustrating is that in my opinion pikachu has an advantage over ness. Mostly our games will be pretty even for the first stock
(my technique is mostly ness arial assualt with a few throw/dash mixtures. usually i finish off kills with a spike)
but then the game usually gets away for Ciaza to win with 1-2 stock remaining. this is mostly because he combats my arial easily with pikachus uair (tail flip thingy) and Fair (electricy tounge spin thing) which i am mostly impossible to combat when i am in certain circumstances. then all it takes is for him to get me off the edge then he edge guards which I find almost impossible to come back from except in the case of a lucky sweet spot with ness' up b. so Ciaza gets up one stock. then sometime later he will get me in a annoying "up a" combo when he is on the ground which i cannot remove myself from (pikachu flips tail up on ground and Im stuck in the same repeated move for about 60 damage including the continued combo Fair Uair) then all it takes is a thunder spike or an edge guard or forward smash and im screwed. Ciaza wins. The only cirumstance in which i think i have an advantage over ciaza is ness' Uair Up a and pika fire which gives me some very limited advantages but only in certain locations/circumstances. I find it very difficult to beat pikachu with ness mostly due to pikachu's very long edge guard range and the supreme advantage of the third recovery.
I know that sort of matches up with the tiers but i will post more detailed character match ups later, here are some more in my own opinion, more coming later
Please discuss
link>pikachu
falcon>link
kirby>pikachu
ness>kirby
ness>fox
fox>link
