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I would argue that since the Find Mii stage, the stage that is probably most associated with Miis, has a symbol that doesn't suit the Miis, the Miis are less likely to be playable at this point. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a Mii-centric stage like that to not have a symbol that could be used by Mii characters, in my opinion.
I said "most" and that doesn't mean everybody. I apologize if that was hurtful to you for whatever reason.
Or it could be like this
False Sense
Does Mii even have a symbol? Let's still remember that the mii from the find mii stage somehow dissapears in 1 of the pictures, mii's are far being unlikely
Negotiations? Namco is the company developing the game. I wouldn't be surprised if Namco's lawyers were told to OK all Sakurai's requests.
You're thinking too hard about it.
You should both know that it's not that easy. Sure, it's easier than getting Mega Man or Sonic in the game, but they still have to get the okay from the higher ups of both companies and Sakurai still has to pay a pretty penny for the use of all those characters.
No, they don't have a defined symbol at this point. However, whatever it would be, it almost certainly wouldn't be the Find Mii crown.@
Again, Galaga is also a popular series. It's not some conspiracy. It's just good for screenshots.
I think you need a jump to conclusions mat. Sakurai has said, numerous times, that he isn't going to add just any third party character to Smash. He even specifically said:Or it could be like this
Namco Employee- Hey why don't we add a character like lloyd or pacman, it would be cool, wouldn't it?
Sakurai- Good idea, let me see what I can do about that
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What kind of person working at Namco would only see glimpses of the game and not know what the actual contents of the game are?
It's not nearly as popular. Sure it gets the item's point across, but if Pac-Man were an Assist from the Special Flag, he'd be a better pick to showcase the item. Hence why I think Pac-Man's playable, not even mentioning the Sal leak.
That's also implying that Pac-Man is "just anybody." It's not like they're asking for the Battletoads. He's Pac-Man. The iconicness alone makes him a special situation, only aided by the fact that his negotiations would be easier than most other third parties. It is by and large a special situation.
You are basically saying that Pacman/Lloyd/Klonoa are just "anybody" but they aren't,Like he said all third party characters are a special situation, pacman/lloyd/klonoa or any namco character would be a special situation and they would be "any third party character" it would be a special namco character that is popular among gamers, Namco is getting content in the game and again, Why woould Sakurai bother to add only items or AT? For some reason sakurai forgot about a character and it only went for items and a AT, and finally neither Sonic/Megaman/Snake weren't necessary but we have them
Did he said "Pacman isn't fit for playable representation"
No. I was pointing out that there are other ways to represent a character.
ok or could be just some Namco worker, that's not working on ssb, but just passing by happen to see some parts of the game in development. Maybe he didn't get into detail about the leak because he could get caught.
I know they are but it is very unlikely Sakurai would take the time to only add Pacman as a stage hazard
A month ago I would have agreed with you, but with him (seeming to be) hyping Ridley up as a stage hazard, he seems to hold the position in high esteem.
Except that
Considering that Punch-Out!!! has already received a game, no. Sakurai is looking for a character to revive in Smash, so it would't fit Sakurai's retro quota. That's something that would belong to someone like Takamaru or Mach Rider.
If we take into account Salromano leak (and four cuts), that brings us up to forty-seven characters. With Mewtwo and a retro character being hinted as being in as well, that brings us up into forty-nine characters. At that point, add that would need to happen is that there would need to be one less cut or one more newcomer and I really think that will happen as well. I'm thinking somewhere between forty-eight and fifty-three; which is definitely a realistic expectation.
I actually wouldn't be surprise if Sakurai is deliberately keeping more newcomers hidden this time around. The reason why Brawl received such massive back lash initially for the roster (which granted, was far from entirely justified) was because of the few amount of newcomers that were hidden. Because of how many characters were revealed as starters for Brawl's roster, this built people's expectations to be high in regards to unlockable Brawl characters. When people found out that the only four unrevealed characters were Lucario, Wolf, Toon Link and R.O.B., people got seriously upset because their expectations were way too high due to the insane hype for Brawl. Sakurai probably realize this and as such, I wouldn't be surprised if the ratio of unlockable to starters additions was larger than 64 or Brawl (more like Melee's).
Shouldn't you be thankful that SSE is gone? Brawl's development took way too much time on SSE; heck, the way Sakurai handled space in Brawl was a huge waste of time. Not to mention the enemies and the environment were mostly bland. Smash Run is so much better; more like the glorified Adventure Mode I wanted to see.
To be fair, not everyone is going believe the leak (though they really should at this point) and even if Chrom gets confirmed tomorrow, there's still Ike and to a lesser extent, Roy to discuss.
Actually, you forgot there still some bones left to beat up.
Won't lie, I was actually kinda hoping for a Marth, Ike and Roy situation this time around partly to see the rage of the many Awakening fans who ride on the excuse of "muh recency" and "muh sales". After all the things Roy had going for him (contrary to what most people in the Smash fan base may think) and Robin and Lucina having been a dark horse candidate as well, I'm actually half-surprised Sakurai went with Chrom for this game.
I'll concede. Of all the characters in the Salromano leak, Chrom is the only one that I have doubts about turning well. Chrom is the poster boy for bandwagons that have formed for this game; those who support Chrom because they like him as a character/his potentials as a fighter are outnumbered by people who support him because of "teh inevitable". It's why it grates my mind to see "supporters" who claim to support Chrom, but only do so because he's the recent lord. All I'm really hoping now is that Sakurai sees Chrom in a different light than the bandwagoners.
If you recall, I was heavily hostile towards the idea of Pac-Man. To be honest, I can't really think of anything much that's going for him that he didn't have in Brawl, which was clearly not enough for his inclusion. The only reason why Pac-Man is in the game is because contrary to what Sakurai said, Namco has been given special treatment.I don't really get a lot of peoples' issue with Pac-Man. Miis? That I can understand. I just have trouble justifying Pac-Man hate, personally. Though I can understand not liking the Ghostly Adventures design.
The way I see it is this. There's clearly Namco stuff in the game; the Special Flag proves this. And who did they show as a Namco Assist in the press release? Galaga. If Pac weren't playable, I definitely think they'd show off him as the Namco Assist instead of Galaga. And you can't tell me he's not included at all...he's essentially their claim to fame. Pac's as good as confirmed, in my opinion.
I'm not sure a about that. The Ice Climbers were pretty retro when Sakurai put them in Melee, so I think they're staying.
Since nana nor the pikmin can act independently, they are technically overglorified items. They had their own programming. But the key factor is independence
That's a pretty terrible idea. Why would I want Sakurai to take out a set of characters who are awesome and have basically been confirmed for Smash 4, just to replace them with the worst things to plague Mario Kart?
I doubt Rosalina X is legit, considering he said that the roster size may change, which would contradict the idea that 4 cuts are "inevitable" so I don't know why you keep referring to that leak, S
But who cares. baby mario&luigi tag team for smash
Those babies are amazing. And ice climbers dont have to go. Gosh its just a joke. Dont be so uptight
You're grasping at straws. It still IS popular. Who cares if it's one or the other.
You never implied it was a joke.
There's a big difference between Pac-Man level popularity and Galaga level popularity.
Now you know why I really loathe Impa and Chrom.
Maybe... We could see at least one character on either Thursday or Friday, but with five announcements this month, I think we'd get only one reveal in May. I think it would be either Wario or Ness.
After the boring week we just had, I think there's a fair chance we'll get something a little more interesting. Perhaps we'll get a character in the first few days of May this week. Or perhaps we'll get some elaboration on some details that were alluded to in the Direct but not fully explained. That could be anything ranging from a better look at the Kalos Pokemon League stage, or even some details on what role Ridley has in this game.
With E3 near I really doubt will we get a character reveal. Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if we didn't get one in May.
