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Well, Lucina is also the star of Awakening and is a lord and also the star of Awakening. She's also used more than Chrom for promotion, iirc. She's also arguably the most popular character in the game. We can do without Chrom.
I agree, and I doubt he'll cut out those two modes, they're basically staples of the franchise. Sakurai knows what the fanbase wants, and he tries to appease our every demand (mostly.) I doubt he'd be satisfied with a smaller roster.
Well, she's definitely important to Awakening and is definitely promoted as such, but I don't think she matches up to Chrom. She's not even present for a significant portion of the game. I find it hard to believe we'd get her before Chrom.
Oh i dont deny that, i definitely have my expectations low just based on how brawl was handled. I just think in this case its going to be quality over quantity. We already have pokemon trainer gone and possibly two of his pokemon so theres that which might make a lower number not be as bad if those spots had newcomers. Hopefully ganondorf will feel like a newcomer as well if he gets a full treatment this time. I agree the franchise needs to innovate, but sakurai has kinda painted himself in a corner IMO by sticking so close to past things and the lack of change in some areas. There will still be many many things for us to enjoy even if the roster isnt huge, hopefully the entire refining of the gameplay will make it feel completely different as well.
Smash Run is a glorified mini-game on ONE version of the game. I am talking about game-modes that inherently change the game. Historically, people buy games for the campaign. I believe this is half the reason Brawl was so successful. It promised a great single-player mode that tells the story of our favorite Nintendo characters. A rip-off of a Kirby Air Ride game is no where near the same. You are competent, I hope you are not comparing the two.
No; I mean we are into the fourth installment into Smash. Each predecessor has offered MUCH more than a rip-off mini-game on only one console. If you cannot see that, I do actually question your competence. If you believe that innovation is merely customization that isn't offered to every individual player, if you truly believe that is enough to differentiate this from a game that released 6 years ago, if you honestly believe that a roster is irrelevant to the longevity of a game... I pity the fool.
I'm just gonna keep back and watch the raging inferno transpire.
If Smash Run isn't innovative for being a "Kirby Air Ride rip-off", then I really fail to see how SSE, a.k.a. "Kirby Super Star rip-off" is.
Yes; any improvement to the net-code is going to be important. I honestly do not play online because the experience isn't great. I still believe that Sakurai is going to have at least 50 characters, 50-54. 50 on the modest side, or 54 which I do not entirely anticipate. My main point is that the game cannot have a slight increase in roster without offering up SOMETHING different. Their innovation is quite literally having the game on both consoles, that is really nifty for anyone planning to purchase both. A bit of a detriment for everyone else though.@Morbi Ah, but you forget that online matches stand a good chance at being... you know, compared to brawl, actually playable. That's something huge.
You do realize that the 3ds has limitations so the wii u version will most likely be alot better.
Well you never know, the idea of all famous Nintendo mascots collaborating together in one game is a pretty exciting thought. I'm sure there were a few people who bought it for that reason.
She...actually didn't do much in her own game.
You are correct, no reasonable person would buy a fighting game for a story, but they appeal to the casual consumer base. Injustice is the prime example if we were to exclude Brawl. It is just something to justify the purchase I suppose. The multiplayer is definitely the most prominent aspect, but removing SSE still objectively moves the franchise backwards.
Also the innovation that was sse was a large chunck of data. It was really good but the majority of the programming time was spent on subspace. The new ssb games are much more evened out allowing for better all around game play. Not just a graphically amazing story that can be finished pretty easily and quickly.
Well, she is the reason why everyone doesn't die. I'd consider that pretty important.
Chrom did all the work though. Though Awakening is pretty complicated and highly unfocused when it comes to the character and the plot as a whole. It was incoherent and messy.
I am not advocating for Subspace; I was merely asserting that it objectively moves the franchise backwards, something antithetical to innovation.
Yes; I am wholeheartedly aware. Therein lies one of the evident detriments of the game, in my opinion. The 3DS is a console owned by most, whereas the Wii U is not. The 3DS retails at $40, whilst the Wii U version retails at $60. The 3DS launches during the non-competitive summer season, the Wii U launches during the highly competitive holiday season. If the roster is the same; most of the casual consumers probably wont bother with the Wii U version. It is very overt that the 3DS is going to dominate sales. Thus, I don't believe many will actually wish to experience the Wii U version aside from most of the hardcore Smash fans. That is just a logical theory, I could be completely wrong. I hope I am to be perfectly honest.
I will say this is probably true, I know I bought Brawl cuz it was Smash Bros. I honestly knew nothing about what it was offering in single player mode that was beyond Melee.
Honestly; he is in the game. Wolf offers a lot more, but that is immaterial. Falco is the fan-favorite. Someone earlier mentioned that there was no need for clone characters that share the same physics as we now have move-set customization. Hypothetically speaking, Fox could have Falco's blaster or kick his reflector reminiscent of Falco. He is a melee veteran, most believe them to be safe as we have had more than a decade to become accustomed to them.
I doubt the wii u version will fail. Well sales wise it will most likely be the most successful game on the wii u this year. Mainly because the wii u hasnt sold very well. The Wii u needs a game like smash bros to help it raise its sells. The wii u is a next gen system that is failing. It hasnt implemented anything very well. So with a famous nintendo series like smash bros, the sales could go way up. So lets hope ssb wii u succeeds
I think there will.
I certainly expect Flatzone 3; Flatzone 2 will probably be returning as well!
You mean, present for the entire game, just not playable.
Really?
Probably.
I feel like it's unfair to claim that because subspace emissary is being removed, there will be a huge leap in innovation in other departments. Honestly speaking, I suspect casuals will play Smash Run more than they played SSE; most of my friends who own Brawl unlocked the vast bulk of characters in multiplayer matches because they found the story mode tedious, boring, and unfun. Claiming that the series is moving backwards because they are removing it seems unfair; the series is simply changing. There is almost certainly going to be a more Melee-esque adventure mode, which was far more successful than SSE. I honestly speaking do not know anyone who liked SSE, and claiming it was a pivotal part of Smash seems extremely odd, especially given that a 'pivotal' part of a game would presumably be introduced in the first installment. Making the decision to not repeat mistakes is not moving backwards; whether or not you consider removing SSE as a backwards move is based on the premise it was not a mistake. I view it as progress, and that trying to have an intense, dramatic story mode was simply some growing pains the franchise needed to go through, not unlike some of the more foolish things people attach themselves to during puberty.
I hope Flat zone returns the music and the overall set of the stage was just great, game n watch I'm pretty sure he's back again.
Chrom doesn't need to be the main character; he is the most prominent character. That is all that is relevant.
I apologize, I meant a pivotal aspect of Brawl. Not Smash, that was negligence on my part. I understand that the franchise is changing, evolving. However, I also believe that it objectively moves the game backwards. Subspace apparently took 3/5 of the development time, where is that in Smash 4? I hope it didn't all go to Smash Run and move-set customization. That is all I am trying to convey. Again, I am not advocating SSE, I am glad it is gone.
In what regard?
Is that why only Chrom is required to be taken into each level? He's the main character, if it came down to one.
Lucina's role in the story was one thing: To serve as the gateway to the future in the story.
I agree.
To be honest I doubt it, remember than when you beat a boss hazard it is supposed to help the player that beated him, if you can control the boss then the purpose of boss hazard would be pointless
