Chain Grabs differences between the other two games

[Yardsale]

Hey guys! I've been trying to give ics a chance since I like them a lot in melee. I understand the buffs they were given and have a knowledge of their desyncs but I find they chain grabs extremely akward to do espically dthrow + dair and the ledge handoffs. Do any melee players have any advice to adapt to doing those chain grabs in project m?

 

[Foxy K]

Ledge handoffs are currently (virtually) impossible, and as far as dthrow->dair timings, I don't know what to tell you. I don't remember what they were like in Melee. You probably just need to adjust a bit.

 

[Revolution6 aka alterego]

for d-throw d-air you might get 1...2 regrabs b4 they get thrown out of's nana's D-air reach (and with brawl throw speeds you gotta nana d-air mad early)

 

[Foxy K]

What, really? No one here knows how to get out of that, then, apparently. Which way do you DI to escape dthrow-dair?

 

[| Big D |]

Handoffs are still doable, the timing is just different.

 

[KingDozie]

Which grab button do you guys use for the handoffs/Chain grabs?

 

[Revolution6 aka alterego]

What, really? No one here knows how to get out of that, then, apparently. Which way do you DI to escape dthrow-dair?

just away period...or the Dair just doesn't hit at all on it's own depending on the character

I believe it's only guaranteed on bulky characters like Bowser, D3, DK, ROB and maybe some others due to the throw speed being mad slow and them being really big

 

[Foxy K]

You can't just pre-jump and nair with nana and throw them into it, if the throw animation is fast enough for any given character?

 

[Foxy K]

I have a few questions about chain throws. Hopefully we can get Hylian in here for some official answers. First, did the change that removed wobbling also remove blizzard+pummel damage racking? Everyone I do it to breaks out, but I want to know if I'm doing it wrong or if it doesn't work anymore. Is there a minimum percentage the opponent needs to be at?

Second, I have an idea I want to run by those of you who know better than me. The way to get out of dthrow-dair is to DI away. The way to get out of dthrow-squall is to DI up (floaties) or down+buffer roll (fastfallers). Would it be feasible to mix up these two variations to try to get people to DI the wrong way and continue chaining them? You only have to chain them to the ledge for a kill, which leads me to my last question.

I have a lot of success getting kills with dthrow-fair spike. They can't really escape it as long as I time everything right. Does anyone else have success with this or is my scene just bad at DIing it? It seems like they might be able to hit the stage or at least ledge/wall tech if they DI in, but I don't know.