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Can we please have instant replay?

joepinion

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(Sorry if this has previously been discussed, but it was hard trying to search for it, what with everyone using the word replay in all kinds of contexts.)

The number one thing I have always wanted in SSB is instant replay ability.

Nothing's better in Madden than when you pull of a great TD run and are able to pause and relive the moment over and over to spite your friends.

SSB makes for far more hilarious and memorable moments than Madden or any fighting game.

Here's what I want:

1. The ability to pause at any time and watch the last ten seconds or so, controlling playback speed and camera.
2. The ability to save memorable instant replays.
3. An edit mode in which I can piece replays together to make my own sweet trailer and put a Brawl song behind it.

They have already done half the work to put this in, with all the camera control users can already have (when the game is paused and in camera mode).

I need instant replay this time!! (What are my chances?)
 

the grim lizard

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Better yet, have a recording feature in the software so that you don't have to have a capture device, and you can instantly upload your videos to the web via Wii wifi.
 

joepinion

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There is no game that begs for instant replay more than SSB. No game causes more insane, screaming, laughing, shock reactions from players.

Also, these moments usually include death, which causes a somewhat break in the action.

I can think of so many memories off the top of my head that I just wished we could have viewed over again, especially from a zoomed-in angle or even from Falco's perspective or something.
 

Doggalina

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Better yet, have a recording feature in the software so that you don't have to have a capture device, and you can instantly upload your videos to the web via Wii wifi.
The Wii wouldn't be able to handle that.

Honestly, it isn't that hard to record videos (unless you completely lack a computer/digital camera).

EDIT: However, being able to take screenshots straight from the pause screen would rock. Better yet, have the screenshots be jpegs for convenience.
 

joepinion

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Recording with an external device is one thing. However, an external device cannot let you view a replay instantly from any angle at any speed. (Madden style!)

Just imagine all the amazing new instructional and YouTube videos we could have if we had save-able, short instant replays that could then be edited together.

We could certainly do a better job than the Melee team on their sub-par videos that they get use any camera angle on. (The how to play and bonus video.)

I do think uploadable videos and recording entire matches would be too much. (Then again, if it is just a matter of recording user input and what items show up when, etc maybe it wouldn't take up so much space. It wouldn't have to save videos, just user input, ala Double Dash ghosts)

Either way though, the shorter replays are very doable and extremely desirable. In fact, if it just saved input/random factors, then you could always view it from whatever angle you wanted, while taking less space than a good video file.
 

raptorbaby10

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I would have to say that replays be saved till the end of the match. Constantly pausing with friends would be soooooo annoying. I hate it already when I'm playing and they pause the game because they're laughing too hard or whatever.... That's why I turn off pause...

But, yeah, definetly(sp?) a good idea.
 

LaniusShrike

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Seems like a good idea, though I just know that there'd be that one guy that would replay absolutely ever KO he got.
Maybe it could come with a feature where we can send shocks to anyone who's being annoying...
I think having the edit mode, while cool, is highly unlikely as that really seems like something they'd leave other people to deal with as it's not really related to gameplay.
 

AAbatterie

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I think it's an excellent idea. You can already put videos on your Wii via SD card, so 10 second clips of Smash would be nothing. You could watch the replay, choose an angle, then either save or delete it. This instant replay is just an awesome idea.

For example, you're playing a pokemon match with your friends(Tiny melee, 2x damage) or just a regular match and we'll be like WTF happened??!?! And we could do the instant replay and see. Simply brilliant joepinion.
 

Takeshi245

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I think it's an excellent idea. You can already put videos on your Wii via SD card, so 10 second clips of Smash would be nothing. You could watch the replay, choose an angle, then either save or delete it. This instant replay is just an awesome idea.

For example, you're playing a pokemon match with your friends(Tiny melee, 2x damage) or just a regular match and we'll be like WTF happened??!?! And we could do the instant replay and see. Simply brilliant joepinion.
I'm starting to get more interested in this idea.
 

GaryCXJk

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Well, how about this?

You record the movie, save it, direct it, and upload the movie on the interwebs. Mail it to someone with a recording device, let him record the movie for you, post it on YouTube, and done.

Kind of like the next Tony Hawk game.
 

Takeshi245

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Well, how about this?

You record the movie, save it, direct it, and upload the movie on the interwebs. Mail it to someone with a recording device, let him record the movie for you, post it on YouTube, and done.

Kind of like the next Tony Hawk game.
Yet another interesting idea. Nice, Gary. 100th post! Yay!!
 

Mode7

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People concerned about storage requirements need not fear:

In games like Elite Beat Agents, the game doesn't save a video, instead, it saves all the actions that occurred throughout a replayed level. That is, the number of beats you hit, what their position was, how accurately you hit them... etc.

The same can be applied to SSBB. The game would only need to save the info that changes during the match... which can be replayed using existing resources from the disc, which saves more space. Games like DOOM back in the 1990s utilized this feature with amazingly small file sizes, I don't see why SSBB can't (but I imagine there could be a technical drawback?)

Example:

You play on a Mario level, 1v1, items, 5 minutes.
The game saves the movements made: walking/running in __ directions, throwing __ item, dying... etc.
Since the levels are stored on disc, they can simply be read from disc. Since the replay save file has a "blueprint" of all the moves made during the match, it can playback said moves just as they were originally performed by the players in real time.

Sure beats saving a 720x480 pixel video! Although, the option to export videos as a video file WOULD be nice one indeed in addition to the proposal above... But something tells me Nintendo won't do it, which I grudgingly understand.


What say you all?
 

OnyxVulpine

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People concerned about storage requirements need not fear:

In games like Elite Beat Agents, the game doesn't save a video, instead, it saves all the actions that occurred throughout a replayed level. That is, the number of beats you hit, what their position was, how accurately you hit them... etc.

The same can be applied to SSBB. The game would only need to save the info that changes during the match... which can be replayed using existing resources from the disc, which saves more space. Games like DOOM back in the 1990s utilized this feature with amazingly small file sizes, I don't see why SSBB can't (but I imagine there could be a technical drawback?)

Example:

You play on a Mario level, 1v1, items, 5 minutes.
The game saves the movements made: walking/running in __ directions, throwing __ item, dying... etc.
Since the levels are stored on disc, they can simply be read from disc. Since the replay save file has a "blueprint" of all the moves made during the match, it can playback said moves just as they were originally performed by the players in real time.

Sure beats saving a 720x480 pixel video! Although, the option to export videos as a video file WOULD be nice one indeed in addition to the proposal above... But something tells me Nintendo won't do it, which I grudgingly understand.


What say you all?
I think thats how Gran Turismo works I've heard..

It just records the accel, brake, turn etc. Then it starts a game and plays it like that but your just watching. I've seen at work when I watch replays and the system lags somehow.. then the cars smash into the walls and start driving around like idiots.

I would love SSB to have replays and be able to transfer it some how on to the interweb... Good quality and easier.
 
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