Can someone please explain to me how the new ledge mechanics work?

[mistro989]

Ive been watching shofu's live streams and i cant quite figure out the new ledge mechanics

 

[AncientBaby]

Edgehogging is no longer a thing. If you grab the ledge with someone else on it, the person who was already holding it pops off to the side (and gets their second jump and special back). You also only get invincibility frames once until you touch the ground again then grab ledge. This prevents people from grabbing ledge, dropping, and re-grabbing to keep getting invincibility to stall. You also have to wait a second or two before grabbing the ledge again if you drop off of it. Backwards ledge grabs (from Brawl) are still a thing. Ledge snap is somewhere between Melee and Brawl.

Not sure how in-depth you wanted, but the most notable change is the second sentence.

 

[KaZe_DaRKWIND]

If you are on a ledge and someone else gets on the ledge you get popped off. No more edgehogging.

 

[Fathom778]

If someone is on a edge, and someone gets the edge, the first person jumps off.
A.K.A. The death of edgehogging.

 

[mistro989]

thank you that helps a lot!

Edgehogging is no longer a thing. If you grab the ledge with someone else on it, the person who was already holding it pops off to the side (and gets their second jump and special back). You also only get invincibility frames once until you touch the ground again then grab ledge. This prevents people from grabbing ledge, dropping, and re-grabbing to keep getting invincibility to stall. You also have to wait a second or two before grabbing the ledge again if you drop off of it. Backwards ledge grabs (from Brawl) are still a thing. Ledge snap is somewhere between Melee and Brawl.

Not sure how in-depth you wanted, but the most notable change is the second sentence.

thank you that helped so much!

 

[D-idara]

There's also a thing for people used to Project M, remember how PM lets you grab the ledge backwards at the very top of some chars' Up + B and it gains ridiculous ledgesnap? Well that certain peak ledgesnap's gone on Smash 4.

I've primarily noticed because Mario's recovery feels much less overpowered now (I kinda hate this because his UpB sweetspot was absolutely INSANE in Project M).

Also, there are certain situations where two characters can grab the ledge at the same time. Haven't figured out the exact conditions yet, though.