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Can she no longer spike?

Nomzr

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I turned on debug mode to find only one hitzone for her dair, as I noticed I wasn't spiking anymore. Has it been removed as a sweet spot, I didn't see anything other than a single red circle around the spores.
 

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Her Dair meteor is timing based, not spacing based. Hit during the first few frames to meteor an opponent.
 

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It has been as I described it since at least 3.0. The meteor hitbox is active for 1 frame before becoming much larger and no longer meteoring.
 
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Nomzr

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I swear there was this frame data thread that showed the larger hitbox and then the sweet spot hitbox, but I don't remember if it was before or after 3.0.

Wait, is that smaller hitzone under the larger one? I feel like debug mode in PM doesn't advance it by single frames.
 

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No; the two hitboxes I described are never active at the same time. The larger one that does not meteor replaces the smaller one that does one frame after it becomes active.
 

Nomzr

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Oh ok, so it's not a simultaneous situation, it's a chronological situation?
 

SuruStorm

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Exactly, I've seen that image and I'm upset with it as it's rather misleading, 1 frame of tiny spike hitbox which heals and poisons, followed by normal hitbox, they are never both active.
 
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