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Boss Speculation

FaceGuy

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I'm quite surprised that there isn't another thread like this already (at least I don't think there is, I couldn't find one and I checked the Thread Finder topic), but I thought it might be fun to have somewhere to post ideas about bosses.

There's a lot of room for speculation on this considering the only confirmed one so far is Petey Piranha, and there's so much speculation on playable characters that hopefully this can get something a bit fresher going. So if you have any ideas for who bosses might be post them here, along with how they'll act during the fight, links to pages with information about them if you think it's necessary and information about the stage the fight takes place in if it's relevant. For example:

Giovanni
Like the playable Pokemon Trainer, he stands in the background and uses a few different Pokemon which do the actual fighting. Unlike the Pokemon trainer, each of his Pokemon have their own health bars, although they are not as large as an equivalent lone boss. They must be defeated in order to move on to the next one.

The fight takes place in a version of the Pokemon Stadium with walls at the sides, two floating platforms and small spike pits at either end, just next to the walls. If the player stays on either of the platforms the boss will attempt to knock them off. If a player lands in a spike pit they will take damage.

The Pokemon he uses are:

Golem
Large, heavy and slow. Like some heavy playable characters, doesn't always flinch when attacked. Can attack using:
Rollout - Rolls back and forth across the stage like Jigglypuff, only bigger and more damaging, and without stopping when hitting a player. Can be avoided by the player by timing jumps well.
Earthquake - Jumps up and slams into the ground, making the ground ripple. Again, can be avoided by timing jumps.
Self Destruct - Used when health is very low, this KO's Golem. Golem explodes, causing a lot of damage and a potential one-hit KO.

Nidoqueen
Not as slow as Golem, but still heavy and good at taking hits. If a player touches the horn they become poisoned, gradually increasing their percentage for a few seconds. Attacks with:
Horn Attack - Charges the player with its horn, dealing damage and poisoning if it hits.
Toxic - Sprays sludge out from its mouth across the stage. If a player touches the sludge they will be badly poisoned, taking significantly more damage than if they were poisoned in another way. The more time spent touching the sludge, the longer the effect lasts.
Take Down - Used when health is low. Nidoqueen charges back and forth across the stage at high speed. The player must manoeuvre it so that it runs into a wall, stunning it, at which point it can be attacked and take damage.

Persian
Light, agile and fast, not as big as Golem or Nidoqueen. Although it takes hits harder than either of them it is harder to actually hit in the first place, as it is nearly constantly moving.
Attacks with:
Agility - Dashes around the stage at high speed, slamming any player it touches. Ends with a powerful slashing attack that is hard to avoid.
Fury Swipes - Specifically targets a player and slashes at them repeatedly. Although only one player is targeted, the other can also be damaged if they get too close.
Psychic - Used when health is low. Uses ESP to pick up the players and throw them at the walls repeatedly. Ends by dropping them into one of the spike pits.

I doubt most ideas would end up being that long, but that's the basic idea.
 

Foe

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I don't think PT's enemy will be another trainer. If it is a pokemon character, I'd think it would be Mewtwo.
 

FaceGuy

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I don't think PT's enemy will be another trainer. If it is a pokemon character, I'd think it would be Mewtwo.
I had initially thought that, but I think it's likely he'll remain playable instead. And I also don't think that every series will necessarily have a boss featured.
 

Foe

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It doesn't matter if he is playable. If he's a boss that would be how to unlock him.
 

psyniac_123

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I like idea of another trainer for PT to fight but I'm not sure about Giovanni... Maybe his Rival?

Also for other franchies; classic Dr Eggman boss for the win! You know the one; the one in Green Hill Zone with the giant wrecking ball thing. Or maybe he could have multiplie gimmicks in his fight...

Also; Kraid.
 

Masterem243

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I like that idea, but don't you think that Mewtwo should be his last pokemon, which will break off from him, and then become a much tougher boss on his own. And then when you defeat him, he'll be unlocked as a character. Or you could do Rival, which would have Eevee, Arcanine, and Pidegot. I would have no idea about the moveset, but it would be a cool idea.
 

Wreked

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This would be a cool thread if you had more bosses. Like samus you should put ridley(ready to be flamed by ridley supporters and non supporters and i support ridley btw).

So mario=bowser
Samus=Ridley
Pikachu=Mewtwo
Kirby=Petey/DeDeDe/Metaknight/that flying eye thing
Link=Ganondorf/Zant
Zelda=Ganondorf/Zant
Sonic=Shadow/Eggman
IC=Condor?
PT=Mewtwo/rival
DK=King k rool/bowser
Diddy=King k rool/bowser
Lucas=A pig idk mother
Fox=Wolf
Yoshi=Bowser Jr?
Snake=Liquid
Ike=Black Knight
Pit=Eggplant wizard/medusa

All I can think of right now.
 

Mr. Ocax

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Characters shouldnt fight their own bosses! For instance, Ike could fight Ganondorf, Pikachu could fight K Rool, Fox could fight King Dedede, etc etc etc.
 

Wreked

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Characters shouldnt fight their own bosses! For instance, Ike could fight Ganondorf, Pikachu could fight K Rool, Fox could fight King Dedede, etc etc etc.
Yeah i'm confused about bosses. Like kirby/mario and petey. And bowser and dk/diddy. My guess is that the bosses are set but with the changing story line like kirby and mario for example. So yeah. Ike and ganondorf would be a very cool boss fight. And pika v k rool would be a little weird but I could see it happening.
 

Numa Dude

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I'd like Sakurai to reveal at least one more boss besides petey BEFORE BRAWL IS FREAKING RELEASED! *calms down* Okay here is my boss suggestion.

PHANTOM SHADOW BEAST BONGO BONGO



In order to fight Bongo Bongo you will have to fall down a hole like in the shadow temple that leads to a large room consisting of a large Bongo in the center and an acid pool surrounding it. The body of Bongo Bongo will appear in the background and his hands will act like two master hands. You will have to fight them both at the same time and they will have around 100 HP each on easier difficultys and upwards of 300 on harder difficultys. They can unleash a powerful joint attack if they are both alive that consists of one beating the drum and knocking you up into the air (no damage) and the other hitting you down into the Bongo knocking you up again. When both are defeated the body of Bongo Bongo falls down beside you on the stage allowing you to damage him. His health depends on the difficulty and can get to as high as 400. If you don't kill him fast enough his hands will regenerate but with only 75% of the health they had before (this accumulates each time you kill them).
 

Wreked

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I'd like Sakurai to reveal at least one more boss besides petey BEFORE BRAWL IS FREAKING RELEASED! *calms down* Okay here is my boss suggestion.

PHANTOM SHADOW BEAST BONGO BONGO



In order to fight Bongo Bongo you will have to fall down a hole like in the shadow temple that leads to a large room consisting of a large Bongo in the center and an acid pool surrounding it. The body of Bongo Bongo will appear in the background and his hands will act like two master hands. You will have to fight them both at the same time and they will have around 100 HP each on easier difficultys and upwards of 300 on harder difficultys. They can unleash a powerful joint attack if they are both alive that consists of one beating the drum and knocking you up into the air (no damage) and the other hitting you down into the Bongo knocking you up again. When both are defeated the body of Bongo Bongo falls down beside you on the stage allowing you to damage him. His health depends on the difficulty and can get to as high as 400. If you don't kill him fast enough his hands will regenerate but with only 75% of the health they had before (this accumulates each time you kill them).
Great idea. I would love for a boss fight like that. *thinks of all of the other zelda bosses*
 

Burninator

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I like that idea, but don't you think that Mewtwo should be his last pokemon, which will break off from him, and then become a much tougher boss on his own.
I actually really like that idea. It would even give Mewtwo motivation to join your team in the effort to stop the Subspace Army.
 

FaceGuy

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I like that idea, but don't you think that Mewtwo should be his last pokemon, which will break off from him, and then become a much tougher boss on his own. And then when you defeat him, he'll be unlocked as a character.
I also really like that idea actually, I only put Persian because I was trying to think of something that would represent Giovanni, but Mewtwo in the context you said would be much cooler.
 

TheMagicalKuja

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As a few have discussed before characters won't necessarily pick a fight with their respective villains. I predict only the third party guys will fight their respective villains.

And as I said in another thread:

Two heroes making it to Arbitrary point X. Oh noes, RIDLEY COMES IN! And boy is he pissed.

PLOT TWIST: You are Ridley.
 
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