Best uses for fire fair?

[RODO]

I've tried using this move a few times recently to find it's overall effectiveness in certain situations but it's starting to seem like there is always a better option. Best use so far is a rising fair from the ledge but that seems about it. Any useful applications for this move or is it better off being ignored for the most part?

 

[Narpas_sword]

It's great for stacking on 25%.

 

[pooch182]

Platform tech-chasing is a free25%.

 

[ph00tbag]

Fire fair has typically been used to challenge certain aerial approaches that are too high for nair, and too low for uair. There's overlap in utility between these moves, but there are certain approach angles where fair is optimal, both for its attack angle, and knockback. Properly timed and positioned, fair can combo into wacky things like Fsmash, uair, nair, and such.

 

[Chevy]

I use it out of D-throw on bad DI sometimes, it combos at low percents, or nets you a knockdown/stagger situation at the least. I've also had it miraculously kill combo: fair->missile-cancel->missile to carry off stage, which is hilarious.

 

[Litt]

Fire fair has typically been used to challenge certain aerial approaches that are too high for nair, and too low for uair. There's overlap in utility between these moves, but there are certain approach angles where fair is optimal, both for its attack angle, and knockback. Properly timed and positioned, fair can combo into wacky things like Fsmash, uair, nair, and such.

Actually if you fast fall the fair from the ledge onto the stage, and if you get the hit confirm, and L cancel before the last and strongest hit of the fair which actually has knock back, you can auto combo into a fire up smash for a hella ton of damage

 

[ph00tbag]

There is that, too, but for OP's sake I just have to mention that fair from the ledge may seem like this unbeatable amazing option that leads to hella follow-ups, but it's actually the easiest option Samus has for the opponent to read and punish, because literally every Samus does it so much more than they ought to.

But definitely keep it in your back pocket in case your opponent is getting too comfy when you're on the edge, and be aware of baits.

 

[pizzacato]

I would like to point out how loving the Samus boards can actually be. <3

Fair is also a great pressure tool. Lay it on their shield and retreat safely to bait out a move. Spacing is keyyyyyy

 

[Litt]

I would like to point out how loving the Samus boards can actually be. <3

Fair is also a great pressure tool. Lay it on their shield and retreat safely to bait out a move. Spacing is keyyyyyy

Go &%$# yourself <3 lol, don't ruin a good moment by talking about it, like remember that time where we were all contributing and talking about fire fair and then pizzicato had to ruin it by bringing it up

 

[Narpas_sword]

lol it's like when someone points out an awkward silence.

WELL IT WAS FINE TILL YOU SAID IT

 

[pizzacato]

omg guys,
no.

pizz
out.

 

[Litt]

lol it's like when someone points out an awkward silence.

WELL IT WAS FINE TILL YOU SAID IT

<3 Narpas, we have had our differences, but gee willikers if you arent one of my favorite sami now