Smash Wii U Best gamecube controller?

[MatManT]

I have a tourney for smash 4 coming up and I need a new controller before i jump the gun and buy the smash gamecube controller I want to know for certain its the best gamecube controller.

I know this is tabuu but I'm talking 3rd party.
For xbox360 you can get controllers that are 3rd party that cost upwards of 100$ and are AMAZING.
So I'm thinking of a VERY nice controller not crap 3rd party ones. I am willing to pay a lot for a VERY GOOD smash pad so whats the best gamecube controller that's 3rd party?
Or does this simply not exist for the gamecube?

 

[Deleted member]

The Hori Gamecube Controller that hooks onto the Wii Remote is probably the best third party, but you don't want to use it due to the lag on Wii Remotes and the tournament might not allow it.

I really don't recommend buying third party Gamecube controllers when the official one will last you for years and is solidly built.

The Smash one works perfectly fine, the best one people in tourneys talk about are the ones that initially came with the Gamecube in the Gamecube era, but I use the newer ones just fine in tourneys. (The reason people say the older GC controllers are better is something to do with the triggers).

Either way, just pick up any official Gamecube controller, you won't find a better tournament Smash controller.

 

[YELLO]

Ive taken both the old and the newer gamecube controls apart and the difference is a support bar that helps support the trigger buttons on the spring, thats the only difference

is it easy to notice? hardly
can the bars be removed? yes
will the control function without the bars? yes

I have also taken apart 3rd party controls
The 3rd party controls do not have the correct Z axis mechanism like the official controls do
What that means is that the triggers buttons have only 2 values, pressed and not pressed
So the trigger buttons do not have any sensitivity axis like the official gamecube controls
This means that on 3rd party controls you have to push the trigger in ALL THE WAY TO THE BOARD unlike official controls
It may not seem like much but it takes that split second longer for the trigger to reach the "on" position
Personally I find it annoying to have to push the trigger all the way in before I get a reaction
Also, many 3rd party gamecube controls are made super cheap and break easily, especially the joysticks

My point is, DO NOT USE 3RD PARTY GAMECUBE CONTROLS

 

[MatManT]

Thanks for your feed back guess I'm just going to get a official smash controller.

 

[Raijinken]

The Hori Gamecube Controller that hooks onto the Wii Remote is probably the best third party, but you don't want to use it due to the lag on Wii Remotes and the tournament might not allow it.

I really don't recommend buying third party Gamecube controllers when the official one will last you for years and is solidly built.

The Smash one works perfectly fine, the best one people in tourneys talk about are the ones that initially came with the Gamecube in the Gamecube era, but I use the newer ones just fine in tourneys. (The reason people say the older GC controllers are better is something to do with the triggers).

Either way, just pick up any official Gamecube controller, you won't find a better tournament Smash controller.

The thing about the triggers confuses me, personally. I heard a while back, and have not gained re-affirmation or negation, that there was a small component difference between the new ones and the originals, that results in a difference. It's noticeable for me, my triggers on my new controllers are more prone to getting stuck (out or in) if not pushed near-straight in, and my old ones don't have that issue. On the other hand, my brother's new models (obtained a month or two ago, compared to mine obtained around December) don't seem to click in the same way, but that could be newness.

But yea, official controllers are made of Nintendium and are thus indestructible. The only thing a third party might offer would be turbo or macros, which are often banned competitively anyway.