Best Edge-Guard against Marth, and Mario?

[The Shadow]

I seem to have a tough time edge-guarding these two.
The latter being the most difficult i hate fighting Mario, or even Roy off the stage in any game.

Marth is not that tough, but when they panic up-b, and try to recover quickly (esp on Yoshis); It's very difficult to find an edge-guarding tool.


Mario is the same deal except i can't hit him any time he's off ledge because he just up-bs quick asf and it's like lol really?

Do i got for the trade? Or lightshield?

 

[evan56780]

How I view edge guarding Marth is more of a baiting game, If he's recovering low then obviously just hold ledge or just light shield and hold away at ledge.

If he has the option to recover high you have to really utilize ledge invincibility, I all ways try to grab ledge a bit before the Marths fair would hit you on ledge so that when the fair will hit you, you are actionable but still invincible. If he does a quick up-B here you can just do a quick ledge drop, jump and do any move to punish the landing lag. If He does Fair or side B and your invincible just drop off ledge and bair or fair. If he then decides to go low, try and squeak a re grab, doing a hax dash would be best b/c dropping low would put you in Marths kill zone. If it all goes to plan you should be able to just hold ledge when he Up-B's and get the kill.

I have no Idea with mario, maybe up-tilt ledge?

Hope it helps

 

[Rachman]

I just fully invincible ledge stall to force them to land on stage then stomp knee