Belmont brothers ledge trap

[Perfect patricia]

So I faced a couple of Belmont’s and I lost each stock to their ledge trap which is throwing the fire at the ledge and forward smashing and I’m not sure what to do when this happens. You can’t neutral getup because the flame will catch you.you can’t jump because you’re not invincible. You can’t roll because the sour spot of f smash will hit you and you’ll be in the exact same situation. You can’t stay in the ledge for too long because their f smash hits you in the ledge. So what am I suppose to do to Avoid dying?

 

[GeflGabe]

There's a few ways I can think of off the top of my head.
-Drop then double jump back on the ledge, after they would throw out their f-smash.
-Time the roll get-up right after the F-smash.
-Mix-up timing when you use jump get-up in between the beginning and end of your I-frames.
-Normal get-up as the Belmont throws out their F-smash.

There should be more ways to counter play them, such as delaying your recover to the edge, or purposely missing it to get back onto the stage before they can set-up, either way, I hope this helps you with the MU. Just be aware, they can always counter-adapt in response to your adjustments, which is why you must always, constantly change your gameplan mid match.

PS: Gonna be frank, I partly wanted to help, to also to tell you that Richter and Simon are not brothers, but rather, Richter is Simon's descendant.

 

[earthboundspacefree]

Even if you’re not invincible during jump, if they’re charging an attack, they’re not going to be hitting you while jumping. Diagonal up is kinda a semi blind spot for Belmont anyway, especially when grounded.

Edit: They can cover up diagonal with axe, but by the time they throw axe, holy water has likely dissipated, and you can time your roll or getup accordingly. Basically, they can cover tons of options, but never all of them.

 

[Dr. Edgeworth]

So I faced a couple of Belmont’s and I lost each stock to their ledge trap which is throwing the fire at the ledge and forward smashing and I’m not sure what to do when this happens. You can’t neutral getup because the flame will catch you.you can’t jump because you’re not invincible. You can’t roll because the sour spot of f smash will hit you and you’ll be in the exact same situation. You can’t stay in the ledge for too long because their f smash hits you in the ledge. So what am I suppose to do to Avoid dying?

1. Release ledge and wait for after forward smash
2. Release ledge and short hop fair them

Also playing any of the yoshi's will help you as the ledge angle will help you avoid being hit by forward smash.