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Any god-tier gameplay methods?
- Thread starter himemiya
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Vashimus
Smash Master
Yes. In the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
himemiya
Smash Lord
Yes! Come on guys.
Spiffykins
Smash Ace
- Joined
- Dec 31, 2012
- Messages
- 547
Try knocking your opponent off the stage. Works every time.
BTmoney
a l l b e c o m e $
Lol no. You cannot play frame perfect. That would require you having a reaction time of 1/60th of a second.
No one play's tas-like.
There are technical players like javi, lovage, pp, mango, silentwolf but that just means they practiced and done things that are less than obvious and remembered the timing.
You could look like Lovage and Silentwolf in their tech skill video which is very close to TAS looking but it is not all that practical. That is why they don't just **** on every person all of the time.
The people you see at apex and etc. are just good. They aren't doing anything literally unfeasible, just stunning.
No one play's tas-like.
There are technical players like javi, lovage, pp, mango, silentwolf but that just means they practiced and done things that are less than obvious and remembered the timing.
You could look like Lovage and Silentwolf in their tech skill video which is very close to TAS looking but it is not all that practical. That is why they don't just **** on every person all of the time.
The people you see at apex and etc. are just good. They aren't doing anything literally unfeasible, just stunning.
Mr.Pickle
Smash Lord
Not consistently no, even the top melee players make mistakes, because they're human. The only advice I can give you is play a lot of people, as often as you can! Make sure also to study as much as you can about the different aspects of the game, no matter how insignificant it may seem, and always engage yourself about the decisions you make in game, even if its a mistake you can learn a lot from it.
Chaos_Blasta
Smash Journeyman
himemiya
Smash Lord
So thats pretty much it? No playing two lvl 7 cpu's and match having to end at no later or sooner then 4mins or something like that? Thanks anyways.
Mr.Pickle
Smash Lord
Well you're not going to get very much out of playing a cpu, because when you get to the core of it, cpus will always react a certain way to each specific situation, because they're only programed to deal with certain actions. The reason why this is bad is that if you base your play style around your interaction with a computer, you'll start to develop bad habits against real players that are very innovative and unique, in comparison to a non thinking cpu. They're good for practicing basic muscle memory to perform simple strings, but they definitely can't prepare you for the level of mental challenge a real player can.
yahyakun
Smash Cadet
- Joined
- Dec 23, 2009
- Messages
- 65
i know some:
1) never ever repeat the same attack more than 2 times. for example if u are both far, them u come and run to him with a dash attack. weather u hit him or not, dont do that again. next time ur both far, run to him and shield in his face, or just WD back and forth like waiting for him to do smthg and themu proceed to grap him or f smash w/e.
2) dont let him take too much space. try to always have some space in case u need to wd, run, evade some attack, etc. try to keep pressure so that he gives u space. thats a rly important thing, but ppl dont even take it into acc. armada always keep pressure while floating cuz ppl most of the time stay away from him and thats what he wants. the same with hbox, he start throwing Bairs so that u run away from him. and its a bad situation when u are at the corner of the stage. but there are some chars that dont mind to be at corner cuz thats where they are good like for example bowser.
3) always vary from attack and defense. if u are combo-ing him, and he techs them roll away from u, dont go and continue attacking, run to him like if u where going to hit him and jump in his face, he will likely down+shield or shield or maybe even attack u. the intention of ur jump close to him was to wait a down+shield so that u can freely knee him (if ur playing cf). its a lil hard to explain this but what i want u to understand is that dont always continue the combo, sometimes u attack, sometimes u block, somtimes u wait, and somtimes u down+shield. always keep a balance between those.
4) dont be predictable. always do crazy stuff, move, come up with something that he isnt expecting, etc.
5)if he misses smthg, punish him hard. take the most out of that mistake, cuz the only way to win a game, is to always take advantage of ur opponent mistakes. and to take advantage of them, u most know both chars.
for example, bowser vs wolf. bowser misses l cancel, he is at 9% dmg, FD, middle of stage. whats ur next move? F smash? u smash? maybe laser?
ur next move is run to him>Nair>Shield>WD>shield>sh-Uair>Uair>Uair/Usmash/Utilt... and so on.
u cant just punish bowser with a simple Fsmash. u have to do what its more effective and what keeps him controlled and pressured.
now if he is a 115% thats another story. an Fsmash wouldnt be a bad idea. or maybe a grab>B throw> Side B (down side B, cuz he will likely DI down)
but to punish hard, u must be quick, skilled enough and have some intelligence. train hard cuz u dont want to miss a L cancel or end up killing urself. i prefer to kill myself and not to miss and l cancel lolz.
1) never ever repeat the same attack more than 2 times. for example if u are both far, them u come and run to him with a dash attack. weather u hit him or not, dont do that again. next time ur both far, run to him and shield in his face, or just WD back and forth like waiting for him to do smthg and themu proceed to grap him or f smash w/e.
2) dont let him take too much space. try to always have some space in case u need to wd, run, evade some attack, etc. try to keep pressure so that he gives u space. thats a rly important thing, but ppl dont even take it into acc. armada always keep pressure while floating cuz ppl most of the time stay away from him and thats what he wants. the same with hbox, he start throwing Bairs so that u run away from him. and its a bad situation when u are at the corner of the stage. but there are some chars that dont mind to be at corner cuz thats where they are good like for example bowser.
3) always vary from attack and defense. if u are combo-ing him, and he techs them roll away from u, dont go and continue attacking, run to him like if u where going to hit him and jump in his face, he will likely down+shield or shield or maybe even attack u. the intention of ur jump close to him was to wait a down+shield so that u can freely knee him (if ur playing cf). its a lil hard to explain this but what i want u to understand is that dont always continue the combo, sometimes u attack, sometimes u block, somtimes u wait, and somtimes u down+shield. always keep a balance between those.
4) dont be predictable. always do crazy stuff, move, come up with something that he isnt expecting, etc.
5)if he misses smthg, punish him hard. take the most out of that mistake, cuz the only way to win a game, is to always take advantage of ur opponent mistakes. and to take advantage of them, u most know both chars.
for example, bowser vs wolf. bowser misses l cancel, he is at 9% dmg, FD, middle of stage. whats ur next move? F smash? u smash? maybe laser?
ur next move is run to him>Nair>Shield>WD>shield>sh-Uair>Uair>Uair/Usmash/Utilt... and so on.
u cant just punish bowser with a simple Fsmash. u have to do what its more effective and what keeps him controlled and pressured.
now if he is a 115% thats another story. an Fsmash wouldnt be a bad idea. or maybe a grab>B throw> Side B (down side B, cuz he will likely DI down)
but to punish hard, u must be quick, skilled enough and have some intelligence. train hard cuz u dont want to miss a L cancel or end up killing urself. i prefer to kill myself and not to miss and l cancel lolz.
If you play vs. CPU's, then this is the most important thing I can tell you for figthing CPU's: Play a constant offense. It can be incredibly easy to beat CPU's if you play defensively (they'll run into your f-smashes, etc.), but if you play on the offense, then it's tougher and more realistic.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Technical skill really only matters in making sure you understand your character. A huge part of Melee is the mental side of it where understanding your opponent and making good judgements as to what they'll do next will reward far more than any technical practice will. This kind of thing can only come from learning matchups and learning players. No amount of lab time will make a great player unless you are inherently adept at reading actions and responding appropriately.
NightShadow6
Smash Journeyman
Someone has already reached that level. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwDHs6UXgR8
himemiya
Smash Lord
How did he train his body to handle the level?
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
I imagine just tons of practice. There is a level of mental training you can accomplish outside of Melee in that your thought processes are developed to be much more efficient when playing the game, but that's a personal matter you have to invest in yourself.
rjgbadger
Banned via Warnings
you need the hookshot
Vashimus
Smash Master
While that's all fine and dandy, knowing all of that tech is pretty much just sunshine and rainbows if you don't have a solid mastery of fundamentals (spacing, baiting, edge guarding, etc). Dark has more tech skill than most spacie players who would wreck him.
Mithost
Smash Ace
Honestly, just play against real people, no matter how "new" they are. You learn that even new players can learn your tricks if it's all you do, and you are less likely to do risky things because you don't want to lose. It's the same as a tournament setting. You don't want to lose, and you are against someone who will learn your set of tricks after the first game.
Tech skill is obviously important because it makes you more mobile and makes your character better overall. Some of Bowser's aerials are pretty bad on landing, but if you l-cancel them, they become viable moves that you start to see yourself use often. However, no matter how good you are at driving your car, you can't drive on the roads if you don't know the rules.