Cosmonaut213
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Okay with the help of the Invincibility reflector video. I have done some of my own research and posted up which Final Smashes can be avoided and how.. so here we go...I hope this helps guys.
Please forgive me for the camera holding because I was doing this all by myself... it was a pain to do.
TO DO THIS EFFECTIVELY YOU MUST LEARN TO TIME AND THAT TAKES PRACTICE
don't feel bad if you don't do it the first few times
Captain Falcon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1WgMgt2zk
The moment he says "come on" or "come" you IMMEDIATELY press down B to avoid being roadkill and the blue falcon will simply wizz by through you.
Metaknight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0o2G9H75Z0
Yes, Metaknight's attack can be avoided though it takes INTENSE timing to do so..the moment he throws up his cape you can avoid his final smash and you can f-smash him or whatever you feel like.
Marth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT9vgKmS1-U
I know this has been done...but it can be done closer which goes to show you that Wolf's Down B is really quick.
Ike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvsYSYhdmpc
Ahhhh, yes.... I pissed off a lot of Ike players (friends) that I did this to...Ike's can be avoided as well with timing the down B. The bonus part is that the relfector will do damage to him as well and you get a free attack due to the lag of the Final smash for Ike...it's a win-win (well for wolf anyways)
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG14D4yE340
The timing with this is you gotta practice. As soon as Link raises his fist to do his final smash you do your down B and you will easily avoid this and you strike in for YOUR kill.
Toon Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea0gSLXpkqE
Same as Link so look above...
Gannondorf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WemnE0scXFE
Ahh yes, the sacred beast outwits the evil beast (bonus points to those who know where this is from)
Okay this is a little tricky but with my help and some practice you can avoid any damage if you are caught by Gannon's Final Smash.
First his Final smash has 3 attacks...
1. if you are close his "growth" animation does damage.
2. His second is a ground stomp which stuns you and you cannot move.
3. His tackle which does some NASTY damage.
okay
first of all for his growth animation you perform his Down B
next you MUST dodge sideways to be behind him...TWICE!!!! if done correctly you will not be harmed by his tackle which has a small vacuum effect.
You cannot triple dodge as the animation glitch will not work as if you have done his Down B it must go in this order...it is not that Hard people...it takes practice.
(my friend did the meowth line)
Anyways this is the beginning as for my next up will be pikachu, sonic, Zero Suit Samus and maybe possibly snake...
Here is my list of Down b invincibility will not work,
Zelda/Sheik- The reason why is because in Practice mode I put the speed at 1/4 and when the Final Smash is done.. at VERY thin blue laser is shot from the bow trapping the opponent and it reaches across the entire screen...the best thing to do...(during the cinematic...Jump as fast as you can)
Samus- It's a GIANT LASER... people it's common sense to avoid it due to the fact that it is a continuous attack and the invincibility frames only last for like a second.
Mario, lucario, pokemon trainer- a continuous laser attack...look at sentence above
Luigi- a circular continuous attack
Peach- nothing can protect you from the pink princess dance of sleepiness
Falco, wolf, Fox- It's a tank people.... dodge and weave
Bowser- avoid as much due to the fact he takes up a lot of space and can hurt you
Jigglypuff- just like bowser she grows huge to take up space.....that is it...edgehog if you can...
R.O.B- Don't make me laugh...ya can't down b this...simply avoid R.O.B and not get hit...
Mr. Game & Watch- again a continuous attack with a tentacle best thing to do is dodge
Wario- Simply try your best and avoid this guy
Captain Olimar- simply NO way to avoid getting damage as you will be hit regardless...best thing to do is to minimize your damage.
(with ideal sweetspot damage..Olimar can achieve 70% before crashing into ground. After crashing and hitting you it equals 100% with knockback outta the stage.)
I can reduce the damage down to 30% w/o knockback...if anyone can get any lower please post up how and a video..I will keep trying to see if it can go any lower. (with wolf only)
Donkey Kong- simply stay away from him and hope you are not the unlucky chap that gets caught in his attack.
Ice Climbers- It's an Iceberg people a giant Iceberg...
King DeDeDe- can't down b outta this one... simpy dodge the waddle dees and such
Kirby- can't dodge this but can be avoided though you must learn the invisible boundary of the circle in which kirby is the center...find the boundary of the invisible circle and you will not get cooked.
Zero Suit Samus- It is a continuous attack when she uses her final smash...best thing to do is to avoid her when she plans on using it next to you.
Here is the plausible
Snake- Doing a down b whenever he launches grenades needs INHUMAN TIMING i only did it twice at one time and that was by SHEER luck...it is hard...though impractical...I will not give up yet.
Sonic-Yes you can avoid as my friend tried it with me in practice as you can stay in one spot and time the heck out when Sonic comes....you can avoid his "chaos emerald" animation with down b and simply stay in one spot and down b whenever he tries to hit you... and it can also be done in midair as well. (it is hard to do) Hopefully a video will come soon.
Pikachu- Same thing as sonic though a little more work on timing due to the fact sonic's final is faster than pikachus
Pit- You can dodge his centurions (don't know why I call them that) though it requires work but when pulled off you can impress your friends.
Diddy Kong- as said with sonic and pikachu you can avoid this but like snake it requires INTENSE timing...really hard to do...impratical yes...hardcore video...maybe (we'll see)
Yoshi- Same deal as diddy though a little easier
Well I hope you enjoy the videos and I hope this helps people inspire them to be more creative with wolf...
Im not showing off my e-peen I am just demonstrating which Finals can be dodged with wolf's reflector... enjoy and please leave me some comments.
Best thing of all when you pull of the "anti final smash reflector" chances are your opponent will be suprised and stunned for a second or two and you can take advantage of this opportunity and strike.
EDIT: okay I fixed the link so now you can see the Ike video...sorry about that folks...
Please forgive me for the camera holding because I was doing this all by myself... it was a pain to do.
TO DO THIS EFFECTIVELY YOU MUST LEARN TO TIME AND THAT TAKES PRACTICE
don't feel bad if you don't do it the first few times
Captain Falcon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J1WgMgt2zk
The moment he says "come on" or "come" you IMMEDIATELY press down B to avoid being roadkill and the blue falcon will simply wizz by through you.
Metaknight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0o2G9H75Z0
Yes, Metaknight's attack can be avoided though it takes INTENSE timing to do so..the moment he throws up his cape you can avoid his final smash and you can f-smash him or whatever you feel like.
Marth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT9vgKmS1-U
I know this has been done...but it can be done closer which goes to show you that Wolf's Down B is really quick.
Ike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvsYSYhdmpc
Ahhhh, yes.... I pissed off a lot of Ike players (friends) that I did this to...Ike's can be avoided as well with timing the down B. The bonus part is that the relfector will do damage to him as well and you get a free attack due to the lag of the Final smash for Ike...it's a win-win (well for wolf anyways)
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG14D4yE340
The timing with this is you gotta practice. As soon as Link raises his fist to do his final smash you do your down B and you will easily avoid this and you strike in for YOUR kill.
Toon Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea0gSLXpkqE
Same as Link so look above...
Gannondorf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WemnE0scXFE
Ahh yes, the sacred beast outwits the evil beast (bonus points to those who know where this is from)
Okay this is a little tricky but with my help and some practice you can avoid any damage if you are caught by Gannon's Final Smash.
First his Final smash has 3 attacks...
1. if you are close his "growth" animation does damage.
2. His second is a ground stomp which stuns you and you cannot move.
3. His tackle which does some NASTY damage.
okay
first of all for his growth animation you perform his Down B
next you MUST dodge sideways to be behind him...TWICE!!!! if done correctly you will not be harmed by his tackle which has a small vacuum effect.
You cannot triple dodge as the animation glitch will not work as if you have done his Down B it must go in this order...it is not that Hard people...it takes practice.
(my friend did the meowth line)
Anyways this is the beginning as for my next up will be pikachu, sonic, Zero Suit Samus and maybe possibly snake...
Here is my list of Down b invincibility will not work,
Zelda/Sheik- The reason why is because in Practice mode I put the speed at 1/4 and when the Final Smash is done.. at VERY thin blue laser is shot from the bow trapping the opponent and it reaches across the entire screen...the best thing to do...(during the cinematic...Jump as fast as you can)
Samus- It's a GIANT LASER... people it's common sense to avoid it due to the fact that it is a continuous attack and the invincibility frames only last for like a second.
Mario, lucario, pokemon trainer- a continuous laser attack...look at sentence above
Luigi- a circular continuous attack
Peach- nothing can protect you from the pink princess dance of sleepiness
Falco, wolf, Fox- It's a tank people.... dodge and weave
Bowser- avoid as much due to the fact he takes up a lot of space and can hurt you
Jigglypuff- just like bowser she grows huge to take up space.....that is it...edgehog if you can...
R.O.B- Don't make me laugh...ya can't down b this...simply avoid R.O.B and not get hit...
Mr. Game & Watch- again a continuous attack with a tentacle best thing to do is dodge
Wario- Simply try your best and avoid this guy
Captain Olimar- simply NO way to avoid getting damage as you will be hit regardless...best thing to do is to minimize your damage.
(with ideal sweetspot damage..Olimar can achieve 70% before crashing into ground. After crashing and hitting you it equals 100% with knockback outta the stage.)
I can reduce the damage down to 30% w/o knockback...if anyone can get any lower please post up how and a video..I will keep trying to see if it can go any lower. (with wolf only)
Donkey Kong- simply stay away from him and hope you are not the unlucky chap that gets caught in his attack.
Ice Climbers- It's an Iceberg people a giant Iceberg...
King DeDeDe- can't down b outta this one... simpy dodge the waddle dees and such
Kirby- can't dodge this but can be avoided though you must learn the invisible boundary of the circle in which kirby is the center...find the boundary of the invisible circle and you will not get cooked.
Zero Suit Samus- It is a continuous attack when she uses her final smash...best thing to do is to avoid her when she plans on using it next to you.
Here is the plausible
Snake- Doing a down b whenever he launches grenades needs INHUMAN TIMING i only did it twice at one time and that was by SHEER luck...it is hard...though impractical...I will not give up yet.
Sonic-Yes you can avoid as my friend tried it with me in practice as you can stay in one spot and time the heck out when Sonic comes....you can avoid his "chaos emerald" animation with down b and simply stay in one spot and down b whenever he tries to hit you... and it can also be done in midair as well. (it is hard to do) Hopefully a video will come soon.
Pikachu- Same thing as sonic though a little more work on timing due to the fact sonic's final is faster than pikachus
Pit- You can dodge his centurions (don't know why I call them that) though it requires work but when pulled off you can impress your friends.
Diddy Kong- as said with sonic and pikachu you can avoid this but like snake it requires INTENSE timing...really hard to do...impratical yes...hardcore video...maybe (we'll see)
Yoshi- Same deal as diddy though a little easier
Well I hope you enjoy the videos and I hope this helps people inspire them to be more creative with wolf...
Im not showing off my e-peen I am just demonstrating which Finals can be dodged with wolf's reflector... enjoy and please leave me some comments.
Best thing of all when you pull of the "anti final smash reflector" chances are your opponent will be suprised and stunned for a second or two and you can take advantage of this opportunity and strike.
EDIT: okay I fixed the link so now you can see the Ike video...sorry about that folks...
