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Animal Crossing Theory

Firebert

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I am SURE that there will be a playable AC character in Brawl. Why? Because of the AC stage and the icon on the official site. This is odd because no other game series without playable characters has had a stage in any of the series. Same goes for the icon on the official site. Anyone else notice this?
 

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Thank you for spending you time posting a thread by itself on such an obvious observation...
 

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I am SURE that there will be a playable AC character in Brawl. Why? Because of the AC stage and the icon on the official site. This is odd because no other game series without playable characters has had a stage in any of the series. Same goes for the icon on the official site. Anyone else notice this?
Please, stop trying to point out consistencies between two games. While I think there will be an Animal Crossing representitive, this has nothing to do with it. The developers aren't stupid.

I mean, it's not like;
"Hey, it'd be cool if we can have an Animal Crossing stage which implements the real time system!'
"WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO ANIMAL CROSSING CHARACTERS >("
"Huh? Why not? I mean, it's a stage that everyone will be able to enjoy regardless if there is a character ot not."

Later...

"All right, now we got a matching icon for the stage."
"YOU IDIOT! NOW WITH THE ICON THERE WE HAVE TO PUT IN A CHARACTER"
"Why? The leaf symbol only took fifteen minutes of our time to implement, it's not like-"
"GET OUT OF MY OFFICE >("

Really. Having the symbol in game means nothing. If the developers want to put in a stage, they will put in a stage. If they want to put in a character, they will put in a character. I'm so tired of people using icons as a way of proving a character's existance. Something like Falcon's Emblem makes sense because they used that and not the F-Zero emblem, but when they can't find anything better to use other than a Sword or Tanuki Leaf, stop going "OMG KONPHIRMED".
 

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People ask why do so many people want to prove an ac charecter is in brawl......Why do so many people want to disprove it? I mean come on, of course there will be an ac charecter. It baffles me why people are going crazy trying to disprove a charecter from one of Nintendos most Popular franchise.

If that was the case(that it only took 15 minutes to make an icon) how come Excitebikes or Little mac don't have icons? It would have been easy to put in a bike icon for excitebike and a Boxing glove for little mac .Check the Assist trophys on the smash site, some assist trophys don't have icons of their own (they just get smash icons) but resetti does get an icon of his own game

I'm pretty sure Sakurai didn't put all the games into a hat and say " Well the ones I pick will get icons and the others won't".
 

Hong

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People ask why do so many people want to prove an ac charecter is in brawl......Why do so many people want to disprove it? I mean come on, of course there will be an ac charecter. It baffles me why people are going crazy trying to disprove a charecter from one of Nintendos most Popular franchise.

If that was the case(that it only took 15 minutes to make an icon) how come Excitebikes or Little mac don't have icons? It would have been easy to put in a bike icon for excitebike and a Boxing glove for little mac .Check the Assist trophys on the smash site, some assist trophys don't have icons of their own (they just get smash icons) but resetti does get an icon of his own game

I'm pretty sure Sakurai didn't put all the games into a hat and say " Well the ones I pick will get icons and the others won't".
If you read the first few lines of my post, you'd notice I also think there will be an Animal Crossing representitive.

And one Assist Trophy isn't a stage or item. I mean, we won't see the icon for Excite Bike or Little Mac in game, since they only appear as Assist Trophies and no where else. However, Smashville is on the stage select screen. As seen, stage select screens have the icons of the series along with a preview picture. If I was anyone in the development staff, I wouldn't allow them to use the Smash Bros icon. I'd immediately suggest the Animal Crossing Tanuki Leaf.

If they were to make a boxing rink for Punch Out as a stage, then we'd have to see an icon. Then they would have to make one. But since it's an assist trophy, we'll never see the icon, and they won't have to make one for the website.
 

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I'm betting on an AC character anyway...


Basically it's just 2 arguements based on nothing but assumptions anyway but the arguer's own personaly bias
 

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Please, stop trying to point out consistencies between two games. While I think there will be an Animal Crossing representitive, this has nothing to do with it. The developers aren't stupid.

I mean, it's not like;
"Hey, it'd be cool if we can have an Animal Crossing stage which implements the real time system!'
"WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO ANIMAL CROSSING CHARACTERS >("
"Huh? Why not? I mean, it's a stage that everyone will be able to enjoy regardless if there is a character ot not."

Later...

"All right, now we got a matching icon for the stage."
"YOU IDIOT! NOW WITH THE ICON THERE WE HAVE TO PUT IN A CHARACTER"
"Why? The leaf symbol only took fifteen minutes of our time to implement, it's not like-"
"GET OUT OF MY OFFICE >("

Really. Having the symbol in game means nothing. If the developers want to put in a stage, they will put in a stage. If they want to put in a character, they will put in a character. I'm so tired of people using icons as a way of proving a character's existance. Something like Falcon's Emblem makes sense because they used that and not the F-Zero emblem, but when they can't find anything better to use other than a Sword or Tanuki Leaf, stop going "OMG KONPHIRMED".
Unless it's some kind of clue, nobody knows.
 

Firebert

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People ask why do so many people want to prove an ac charecter is in brawl......Why do so many people want to disprove it? I mean come on, of course there will be an ac charecter. It baffles me why people are going crazy trying to disprove a charecter from one of Nintendos most Popular franchise.

If that was the case(that it only took 15 minutes to make an icon) how come Excitebikes or Little mac don't have icons? It would have been easy to put in a bike icon for excitebike and a Boxing glove for little mac .Check the Assist trophys on the smash site, some assist trophys don't have icons of their own (they just get smash icons) but resetti does get an icon of his own game

I'm pretty sure Sakurai didn't put all the games into a hat and say " Well the ones I pick will get icons and the others won't".
This is exactly what I assumed.:) I also thought that it was a matter of time before an AC character was in Smash.
 

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Yeah they are opinions but the good animal crossing characters are in the stage and to have a generic human with no name seems pretty pointless.
Yes it does, but he is the only person you actually play as in Animal Crossing...I think that's the reason they make pick him
 

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Yes it does, but he is the only person you actually play as in Animal Crossing...I think that's the reason they make pick him
Thank god you said that I thought you were gonna reply like all of the others and say well Pokemon Trainer is in the game when it's not the same situation, and maybe the human theory makes sense since it's pretty much the only character left but I personally wouldn't like to waste a character slot like that, again pure opinion.
 

Ukn0wn1

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One of the reasons I'm against the inclusion of an AC character is simply a design issue.

Yeah, the Animal Crossing world makes for some pretty dynamic and cool stages I'll agree, but I'm afraid the same cannot be said about their characters. I wouldn't be making such a big deal about this if it weren't for the fact that Tom Nook and others have been all but deconfirmed, leaving the only the generic "smash villager" left as a potential AC representative.

I know my following point is completely irrelevant but it's still worth mentioning. Whenever my friends and I get together and play Melee, they always go straight for the most badass looking characters - you know who they are: Ganondorf, Samus, Captain Falcon, Link etc. These are guys with no past experience playing any sort of video games, Nintendo or otherwise. But for some reason they absolutely love Smash. (Imagine a bunch of football jocks going crazy over a game, it's not pretty.)

On the other side of that coin, there are some characters who are left neglected. The point is, the characters who are less visually appealing get overlooked, underused, and overall, become a waste of a roster slot.

Now, I realize that every franchise has it's own dedicated fanbase who each feel their character deserves a spot in Brawl. But just because a Nintendo developer decides to create their own game and have bland looking characters to go with it, doesn't mean they deserve to waste space with them in Brawl.

The same token may apply to some other characters, but I don't feel this issue is as glaring. Besides, characters like Lucas and Captain Olimar make up for their lack of design with other qualities like psychic powers and Pikmin, repectively. The same can't be said for someone who wields a fishing pole and a butterfly net into battle. Lame.

So you say there is always someone out there who enjoys playing the Animal Crossing games so much that they can't wait to use their little pacifist villager to violently murder others in hand-to-hand combat? If you're one of those people, I bet that when you're hanging out with your friends, they'll be like, "Yeah man I decided to play as Snake from now on. He's pretty cool. Who's your main?" And you'll be like, "Oh yeah well I think the Animal Crossing Villager is better so I'm playing as him." Give me a break.

My sister plays Animal Crossing, everyday in fact. Do you think she will pick up a copy of Brawl and start bashing heads as an AC rep? Not a chance in hell. In fact, the one reason she plays it is because it's one of the only games that doesn't have anything to do with fighting or violence AT ALL. Animal Crossing has no place in this type of game. It's like making a fighting game for Sesame Street. It's just not happening.

You can attempt to dismantle my post through numerous counterexamples. If you are one of these people, don't waste your time. I realize the faults in my armor, so try to understand the rationale of my perspective, please.
 

Firebert

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One of the reasons I'm against the inclusion of an AC character is simply a design issue.

Yeah, the Animal Crossing world makes for some pretty dynamic and cool stages I'll agree, but I'm afraid the same cannot be said about their characters. I wouldn't be making such a big deal about this if it weren't for the fact that Tom Nook and others have been all but deconfirmed, leaving the only the generic "smash villager" left as a potential AC representative.

I know my following point is completely irrelevant but it's still worth mentioning. Whenever my friends and I get together and play Melee, they always go straight for the most badass looking characters - you know who they are: Ganondorf, Samus, Captain Falcon, Link etc. These are guys with no past experience playing any sort of video games, Nintendo or otherwise. But for some reason they absolutely love Smash. (Imagine a bunch of football jocks going crazy over a game, it's not pretty.)

On the other side of that coin, there are some characters who are left neglected. The point is, the characters who are less visually appealing get overlooked, underused, and overall, become a waste of a roster slot.

Now, I realize that every franchise has it's own dedicated fanbase who each feel their character deserves a spot in Brawl. But just because a Nintendo developer decides to create their own game and have bland looking characters to go with it, doesn't mean they deserve to waste space with them in a much better game.

The same token may apply to some other characters, but I don't feel this issue is as glaring. Besides, characters like Lucas and Captain Olimar make up for their lack of design with other qualities like psychic powers and Pikmin, repectively. The same can't be said for someone who wields a fishing pole and a butterfly net into battle. Lame.

So you say there is always someone out there who enjoys playing the Animal Crossing games so much that they can't wait to use their little pacifist villager to violently murder others in hand-to-hand combat? I bet that when you're hanging out with your friends, they'll be like, "Yeah man I decided to play as Snake from now on. He's pretty cool. Who's your main?" And you'll be like, "Oh yeah well I think the Animal Crossing Villager is better so I'm playing as him." Give me a break.

My sister plays Animal Crossing, everyday in fact. Do you think she will pick up a copy of Brawl and start bashing heads as an AC rep? Not a chance in hell. In fact, the one reason she plays it is because it's one of the only games that doesn't have anything to do with fighting or violence AT ALL. Animal Crossing has no place in this type of game. It's like making a fighting game for Sesame Street. It's just not happening.

You can attempt to dismantle my post through numerous counterexamples. If you are one of these people, don't waste your time. I realize the faults in my armor, so try to understand the rationale of my perspective, please.
You make some great points, but I stand by my theory.
 

Sabrewulf238

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I'm going to try and find this interview that confirms an ac charecter and post back here.....

Edit: Noooo!! The interview was fake :(. Turns out some guy took pieces from an old japanese mag that had nothing to do with brawl and tricked people into believing it was a brawl interview......I still strongly believe there will be an ac rep though.
 

Hong

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I know my following point is completely irrelevant but it's still worth mentioning. Whenever my friends and I get together and play Melee, they always go straight for the most badass looking characters - you know who they are: Ganondorf, Samus, Captain Falcon, Link etc. These are guys with no past experience playing any sort of video games, Nintendo or otherwise. But for some reason they absolutely love Smash. (Imagine a bunch of football jocks going crazy over a game, it's not pretty.)
There is only one person I play Smash Brothers consistantly who after becoming more expertise at the game, picks a character simply because they're cool. I play Roy because I love Fire Emblem, not because he's cool and has fiery explosions. I also play Kirby who isn't exactly "badass" and my most encountered rival plays Yoshi.

A lot of the most played characters wouldn't rank as being dark or "badass". Heck, half of the roster doesn't even fit that bill.
On the other side of that coin, there are some characters who are left neglected. The point is, the characters who are less visually appealing get overlooked, underused, and overall, become a waste of a roster slot.
Really? In competitive play, everyone except Sheik, Marth, Fox and Falco are neglected not because people like them, but because they top higher on the tier list. Newcomers and beginner players pick the characters they like, which is the bigger variety. I've been to countless non-competitive and competitive tournaments alike, so I've had a lot of exposer to draw that from.
Now, I realize that every franchise has it's own dedicated fanbase who each feel their character deserves a spot in Brawl. But just because a Nintendo developer decides to create their own game and have bland looking characters to go with it, doesn't mean they deserve to waste space with them in Brawl.

The same token may apply to some other characters, but I don't feel this issue is as glaring. Besides, characters like Lucas and Captain Olimar make up for their lack of design with other qualities like psychic powers and Pikmin, repectively. The same can't be said for someone who wields a fishing pole and a butterfly net into battle. Lame.
What? How do you know that? It's could bring hilarious, effective and unique possibilities. Your idea of it being lame isn't the actual entity, but your own ideals and lack of creativity. Animal Crosser could roll out a carpet below his or her opponents feet and then flick it out to toss them in the air. Not only does it suit that character, but the fans of the series love it.
So you say there is always someone out there who enjoys playing the Animal Crossing games so much that they can't wait to use their little pacifist villager to violently murder others in hand-to-hand combat? If you're one of those people, I bet that when you're hanging out with your friends, they'll be like, "Yeah man I decided to play as Snake from now on. He's pretty cool. Who's your main?" And you'll be like, "Oh yeah well I think the Animal Crossing Villager is better so I'm playing as him." Give me a break.
There has never been a conversation like that in any regard to any game ever to my knowledge. Do other girls laugh at me for choosing a masculine tough guy character like Falcon or Roy, do Kirby and Pichu players get mocked for picking a cutesy character, do Clergy get thrown out of the church for playing Ganondorf and beating the innocent? No, this is Smash Brothers. Anyone in their right mind who has played the game knows every character is effective despite appearances.

You're playing a game where overly lovely dovey pink princesses beat up big muscular tough guys with turnips and golf clubs. This same game also has a battlehardened trained assassin running chasing cute deformed talking dinosaurs. Really, by that logic anyone who plays Smash Brothers is a laugh stock, which is far from the truth.
My sister plays Animal Crossing, everyday in fact. Do you think she will pick up a copy of Brawl and start bashing heads as an AC rep? Not a chance in hell. In fact, the one reason she plays it is because it's one of the only games that doesn't have anything to do with fighting or violence AT ALL. Animal Crossing has no place in this type of game. It's like making a fighting game for Sesame Street. It's just not happening.
Far from the truth. I'd love to play as Animal Crosser, as would many others. I can ensure you, Animal Crossing die-hards would play as Animal Crosser should they play Smash. And from the results of the E for All Demo, it's a game anyone can play, enjoy and do well. My mother never played anything other than puzzle or party games because she has a disliking for excessive violence, but I got her into playing Melee and Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess no problem. Me and my other gal gamers prefer non-violent games, but if something is good then something is good. Play it because it's fun. Smash Brothers is too comical for violence to be an obstacle.
You can attempt to dismantle my post through numerous counterexamples. If you are one of these people, don't waste your time. I realize the faults in my armor, so try to understand the rationale of my perspective, please.
Now that's just ignorance. :/

Just like you can convey your message without wanting a response, so can I. I see and understand your point of views but define them as being incorrect.
 

Sabrewulf238

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Lunadis said:
Far from the truth. I'd love to play as Animal Crosser, as would many others. I can ensure you, Animal Crossing die-hards would play as Animal Crosser should they play Smash
I agree, Brawl is about putting Nintendo charecters in a different situation then the norm. Plus I don't think if the subspace emissionary start attacking the ac villagers/charecters they're just going to protest for peace.....not gonna work with the subspace emissionary....
 

Firebert

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I'm going to try and find this interview that confirms an ac charecter and post back here.....

Edit: Noooo!! The interview was fake :(. Turns out some guy took pieces from an old japanese mag that had nothing to do with brawl and tricked people into believing it was a brawl interview......I still strongly believe there will be an ac rep though.
That's okay. We pretty much know there will be an AC character. It wasn't really your fault.
 

bluekitsune13

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I'm not a big fan of Animal Crossing, so I have a natural bias against an AC character. What would they do? I guess it would be cool if it would be your character, if you have in a GC memory card or something. I think that a Mii character would be better though, however that is just as unlikely.
 
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