Alternate mapping options

[SixSaw]

I've noticed I never use the X or R buttons, since they're made redundant for me by Y and L respectively. Leaving two perfectly good buttons neglected feels like a waste of potential. What could be some potentially useful things to map to these instead of the default?

 

[Jolteon]

A lot of people set R to attack for DACUS purposes. As for X, you can try setting it to footstooling.

 

[Smash John]

i have Y as footstool and R as jump for jump cancelling stuff when my thumb could otherwise not get to x/y in time

 

[9bit]

This is the setup I'm rocking right now:

If I could go back in time and un-learn years of Melee muscle memory, I'd like to switch A to jump and Y to attack. Having the jump button right in the middle seems the most logical.

 

[Burnsy]

A lot of people set R to attack for DACUS purposes. As for X, you can try setting it to footstooling.

I think this is a great setup if you ever use a character that has a DACUS. This is what I use.

 

[Strong Badam]

I set X to footstool. Everything else is default.

I DACUS by clawing by index finger to A.

 

[Spiffykins]

claw dacus ftw

I used to funk around with the controls but I just use standard now, I remember being all "**** tap jump" and everything but I figured I might as well just get used to the controls the way they are in Melee instead of learning multiple setups. I should try setting R to footstool though, I still haven't experimented with footstool enough.

 

[DrinkingFood]

I would like, as controller mapping options, the options to null directions and inputs. Meaning that using one would allow the c-stick to input only directions for one frame by nulling an attack input with another button. Would also allow things like buttons that have multiple purposes depending on what input you null. I believe somewhere PMBR said that this isn't currently possible though, so I'm not holding my breath.

What I think PMBR SHOULD go for is buttons for individual things, like a nair/neutral attack button, as well as a true attack stick with analog functionality, meaning a c-stick that does both attacks and tilts.

 

[SixSaw]

like a nair/neutral attack button

That would be fantastic.

 

[trash?]

quick reminder: I am mental

ATTACK = R
SPECIAL = X
JUMP = A
GRAB = B
FOOTSTOOL = Z

this solves a lot of problems when you get into input mapping for me. OoS upb can't be done as easily with tap jump off, so you roll your right thumb upward and it's painless. ditto with most tech skill; waveshining is painless compared to default melee controls

I still got no clue what I'm gonna do with the Y button though

 

[Phaiyte]

I have Y set as another shield button so I can just roll my thumb from X to Y to wavedash with incredible ease with any character that has a 3 frame jumpsquat. It also makes wavelanding pretty legit in general. For specifically Fox, Falco, Wolf, and Lucas I have another name tag with A and B switched around to make waveshining and laser camping super easy.

 

[Xebenkeck]

I use dashing -> cstick down -> up+Z to DACUS. That was the easiest way to do it in Brawl, and you don't have to remap anything for it.

 

[DrinkingFood]

That doesn't work for every character in PM. Any with 4 frame jumpstarts require an attack input. Grab inputs won't cut it for them. Using an attack input also makes the window one frame more lenient for everyone with 5 frame or greater jumpstarts.

 

[Jolteon]

Yeah, using Attack for DACUS is better, you just have to either claw the input or remap a button to do so.

 

[Xebenkeck]

So explain to me how that is possible? What tangible difference is there in pressing Z over say A.

To me it makes no sense on both a coding level and controller input level as to why they're would be a delay in the Z input oppose to the A input.

The only reason I can think of is that the game literally thinks Z input is actually a R first then A second input. If that's the case, then w-t-f you learn something new everyday.

 

[Jolteon]

As for why attack is better to use than grab, the boost grab window is 3 frames. The earliest boost smash can be input is frame 3 (frame 1 inputting attack to do dash attack, frame 2 releasing attack, frame 3 inputting u-smash), and ends 1 frame before the length of their jump startup attribute (you're not actually jumping; it's just what the input window variable uses). When you try to boost smash on frame 3 using grab button you'll get a boost grab instead, but using attack button you'll boost smash. Frames 4+ will work with either button. Using attack instead of grab is the only way to boost smash with 4 frame jumpers (works on frame 3 with attack), and 5 jumpers you're doubling the input window by using attack instead of grab (3-4 with attack vs 4 with grab).

 

[DrinkingFood]

well there it is