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Aggro Fighting Robot -- what does it take to play a flashy Megaman?

Meistermayo

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This thread is experimental and unconventional. If i made an error about his specs, please say so in the thread so i can change it. Any additions positive or negative are welcome.

As a character who is said to win neutral by default and maintains an ultimately positive matchup spread, is it possible for us to push that beginning lead to oppress the opponent, instead of hanging back and pestering them? Megaman is typically regarded as a runaway, keepaway, boring character. Thus, his aggressive potential has not been considered or developed (regardless if it exists or not). Is it possible to use megamans projectiles, instead of a means of keeping the opponent out, as aw way of shutting the opponent down so megaman can get in?


What we know about shield pressure:

  • Uair is safe on shield, can be mixed up with a defensive option, utilt, or perchance a grab.
  • Zdrop mb is perfectly safe on shield, leading into a grab or a shield break.
  • Boost Blade is safe into a grab, or combo on hit. Obviously its a pain to pull off, but should be developed.
  • Through conditioning, we can set up pellet grabs by firing only one pellet during ftilt
  • By playing with the amount of pellets we fire on shield, we can bait out shieldgrabs to get the ftilt-> nair. Changing the timing could make us safe on shield.
  • Fullhop spawn mb can lead into any type of shield pressure.
  • Leaf shield can be used to get grabs
  • Doublejump dair autocancels, although some characters may be able to chase megaman down before he lands.

Moves
  • Bair is a frame 4 aerial that outprioritizes many non sword attacks
  • Slide tends to catche people offguard, as it moves forward from start and doesnt clank with everything like projectiles do.
  • While utilt does not start with invincibility, it does exist in the move and can go through moves if the timing is right.
  • Rush can be used to cancel an aerial into an lag switch leaf shield
Punishes
  • Usmash oos / after spotdodge is good for covering both sides of megaman to punish a bad approach
  • Utilt obviously is a good punish for anything, killing at high mid percents.
  • Shieldgrab can hurt, getting an easy 14-17 percent
  • Landings can be easily punished by megaman, catching airdodges with projectiles, pelleting them before landing to mess up their timing and punish with grab or utilt. Ditcit upwards with megaman can allow him to chase down moves like bouncing fish or diddy flip
Edgeguarding
  • Leaf shield wrecks some characters
  • Bair wrecks spacies
  • Mb can be spawned, thrown, or zdropped to bait a punishable airdodge. Can also gimp
  • Dair spike
  • Nair can gimp characters if all else fails
  • Rush can be used to cancel moves, pumping out projectiles

Problems
  • Frame data isn't great for playing up close
  • Combo food
  • While recovery is good, it can be intercepted.
  • Smashes are unsafe, aerials are mostly unsafe.
  • Mb can be caught
  • Projectiles... (Low priority, can be reflected)
  • Leaf shield loses to counters, esp shulk
  • Pellets still need to be spaced well to avoid vulnerable frames
  • Usmash kills late for its lagginess.
  • Against someone who knows how to di uair, it will never kill, even at 200
Its well agreed upon that megaman is optimal from far away. Although playing megaman midrange may be unoptimal, will it still be more rewarding?
 

p1ay6ack

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pretty much kamemushi's playstyle, zucco's playstyle incorporate a flashy agressive playstyle. they both use metal blade like pellets and limit themselves to 1-2 pellets to create zoning (sweet spot nairs mostly to keep them out). spaced fairs, short hop fading up airs, RARs on offstage opps, z drop metal blades, oh and lots of smart grabs
 

Diamond Octobot

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One thing to know : Are Jab and / or Nair safe on shield ? I've been wondering about it for a long time, and it seems no one has found an answer yet... Oh, and Auto-Cancel DAir can still be turned into UTilts if you really feel lucky :p
P.S. : UAir can kill some characters from the ground. I'm still making the list :p
 
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Megamang

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Safe is an odd concept for Megaman. He doesn't have a fast jab or special, so even if you are + on someone they can OOS you and power thru your option.

On the other hand, everything of his can be safe if you space it. Bair especially is so ranged that very few characters can OOS you for fishing for bair at kill percentages.
 

Nu~

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pretty much kamemushi's playstyle, zucco's playstyle incorporate a flashy agressive playstyle. they both use metal blade like pellets and limit themselves to 1-2 pellets to create zoning (sweet spot nairs mostly to keep them out). spaced fairs, short hop fading up airs, RARs on offstage opps, z drop metal blades, oh and lots of smart grabs
While not as great as either of them, styles also has a very flashy aggressive playstyle.

Metal blade combos, Rush setups, and smart usage of Uair
 
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