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Advice on improving on 2v2s?

EarthBound18

Smash Cadet
Joined
Jan 20, 2015
Messages
41
I do pretty okay on 1v1s but 2v2s I just can't seem to win. I find it fun but I feel like all my options I use are eliminated because of team attack and the fact that I have to worry about my partner and the opponents team mate. If I verse players around my skill level I get destroyed in 2v2 and it's pretty humiliating knowing I can beat them 1v1. Any tips would be appreciated, I mainly Use Roy,Bowser,Charizard,Ness,Mewtwo and ,Meta Knight.
 

Tenretsujin10

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Mar 17, 2015
Messages
169
Coordinate with your teammate better, doubles isn't all about isolated 1v1's across the stage. Practice combos, spacing moves so they don't hit your teammate, and getting stage control so you can 2v1 your opponent.

*If what I said doesn't help and you still can't win, use Sheik and G&W Bucket Vanish strategy for the free win.
 
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I feel teams became incredibly simple once I started following a few basic principles. I am not really certain where to start with mentioning these traits, so I will put them out there in really no order at all.

- There is often a TON of waiting in smash even in Melee where its pretty fast paced. Try to use that time wisely by prioritizing your time. People are likely going to come back to the stage and you cannot guarantee success at KO'ing them with how good recovery is in this game. If your teammate is in trouble forget the person you just sent flying super far offstage. Go help your teammate by either hitting the other person or giving them something to worry about.

- 2 v 1 situations are pretty good. Ideally, even if your opponent hits one of you there would be another person to punish the person who hit your partner. What is better is that through your combined actions near a person you can cover everything they can do. If they roll in either direction you got it.

- Designate who gets point. Its teams. If your partner is hit there is the other person to follow-up to punish the person hitting your partner. Not advancing is bad because you both get caught at the side of the stage and get bunched up getting in the way of one another. Person in front should take point even if you might risk getting hurt because you NEED that space else the alternative is worse where you both hurt each other.

- Try to line-up 1v1 match-ups if you can at all, but it will not always happen. I mean try to 2 v 1 a target and another person designated as the left-alone. Your team's best character against the left-alone will act as a more passive role. This person will try to wall out the left-alone enemy while covering options of the other opponent. Your teammate will act as the primary aggressor against the target.

The left-alone is generally the weaker character that cannot intervene as well. Either through play-style or their character. The target is the harder of the two, but should fall prey to a 2 v 1 pincer attempt. Every character has lag and cannot truly defend against a 2v1 situation. But, since you have your better character acting as the wall to the left-alone you have a pretty strong situation.

However, all of this strategy is meaningless if neither of you can equally be good players to carry it out. If your teammate gets knocked away and you never punish the opponent for doing it your 2v1 pincer was sort of useless. The strategy can help set you up for success, but it still comes down to several scenarios as characters, percentages, stage, and player skill.
 

shane3x

Saint of Swords
Joined
Sep 24, 2014
Messages
656
Location
Australia
Has anyone got a video of the Sheik/G&W Bucket thing. It is always amusing to see these things.
 

SphericalCrusher

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I've barely ever play teams, so this is something I want to start working on as well. My guess is to just PLAY teams, learning each other's styles by playing 1v1 against them, and coordinate it in the battle.
 

Charey

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Oct 21, 2005
Messages
190
Set one is to find a consistent partner, that way you know what your partner is like and can work on improving your strategies together.
 

RunawayPanda

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Jul 16, 2014
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Understand your partner's habits, maybe even assign a role to each of you?
For example, my normal team mate and I each have a different job, mine is to stock tank and support as rosalina (or switch and go aggro with pikachu) and he just does his work with mario. Assigning a role will help to avoid confusion.

As for combos, go for the quick damage and if possible get you opponent off stage and go help your team mate. If you take too long in punishing your opponent, you're just gonna get hit by something eventually.

Decide if you want to focus on gimping someone if they are off stage or go 2v1 the other person.

I hope for you success in teams
 
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