Advanced Ledge Techniques

[FE_Hector]

So, using Marth, I'm capable of fair/nairing from the ledge to recover, but other than that and aerial dodging up onto the ledge, what are some other good ways to get back up that aren't just pressing up/attack/in to recover? I've heard about some things, but no names have actually stuck in my head. Also, if you could tell me what the input sequence is, that'd be great.

 

[AirFair]

ledgehop dair is good as both a recrovery and also an edgeguard, you do it the same way you do fair and nair, just doing a dair

You can haxdash with marth, but I don't do it too often.

ledgehop counter is a mixup

and of course, the normal ledgedash is the primary way to get onto the stage quickly. ledgehop and waveland onto stage

 

[FE_Hector]

Ledgehop dair would have to land onstage, right? (I'm pretty sure, but wanna be sure)

Haxdashes require crazy input. That's a tech to master in a while - once my Marth is a lot more accurate.

Ledgehop counter would also have to land on the ledge. I found out the hard way that a counter -> dolphin slash offstage cannot keep you alive. I don't remember about when you still have your other jump.

Ledgehop into waveband onstage? Would input just be out -> jump in -> waveland?

 

[20YY SS | Saiblade]

Ledgehop dair would have to land onstage, right? (I'm pretty sure, but wanna be sure)

Haxdashes require crazy input. That's a tech to master in a while - once my Marth is a lot more accurate.

Ledgehop counter would also have to land on the ledge. I found out the hard way that a counter -> dolphin slash offstage cannot keep you alive. I don't remember about when you still have your other jump.

Ledgehop into waveband onstage? Would input just be out -> jump in -> waveland?

Yep, out -> jump in -> waveland.

 

[FE_Hector]

Awesome, thanks a ton, Saiblade!

 

[Ohsm]

I would recommend to take a look at the Marth Boards and ask Marth specific questions over there.

Btw here's an awesome info compilation that might interest you (brought to you by the based Kadano) :

http://smashboards.com/threads/kadano’s-perfect-marth-class—advanced-frame-data-application.337035/

There's even a paragraph for haxdashing and a lot of other worthwhile stuff.