About stages with multiple files...

[HenryZusa]

I have a question about stages like Smashville, Shadow Moses Island and Lylat Cruise.
As you may have noticed, they need more than 1 .pac file to work.
For example, Smashville loads 5 different backgrounds depending on the time of the day.
And as far as I know, I can replace any of those 5 as long as it shares the same collisions as the others, right?
Well, I recently tried to do this by replacing the Lylat Cruise .pacs with different versions of Final Destination I found on the vault (All of them 3.0 compatible: Mars Destination, Moonlight Blue, Castle Destination, Sunset Orange and Rumble Destination).
I also converted a .rel file from Final Destination to Lylat Cruise, so I could replace the least one.
But one I got into the SSS, the game silently froze.
Could you help me to solve this?


I know there exists the ASL, but from experience (and from what other users have experimented too) I know it doesn't work properly with <=3.0 versions, so it can't be used right now.

 

[soopercool101]

I have a question about stages like Smashville, Shadow Moses Island and Lylat Cruise.
As you may have noticed, they need more than 1 .pac file to work.
For example, Smashville loads 5 different backgrounds depending on the time of the day.
And as far as I know, I can replace any of those 5 as long as it shares the same collisions as the others, right?
Well, I recently tried to do this by replacing the Lylat Cruise .pacs with different versions of Final Destination I found on the vault (All of them 3.0 compatible: Mars Destination, Moonlight Blue, Castle Destination, Sunset Orange and Rumble Destination).
I also converted a .rel file from Final Destination to Lylat Cruise, so I could replace the least one.
But one I got into the SSS, the game silently froze.
Could you help me to solve this?


I know there exists the ASL, but from experience (and from what other users have experimented too) I know it doesn't work properly with <=3.0 versions, so it can't be used right now.

Lylat Cruise is somewhat of an oddity. From what I can tell, there is only one version of the stage, and all the other .pac files is the different scenery that is passed. As far as I know, you can't replace Lylat Cruise (or Castle Siege) with stages not specifically designed for that slot. If you want to put in a ton of final destinations though, there is always the stage expansion pack.
The stages with multiple versions that can be replaced with rels are: Smashville, Spear Pillar (Saffron City in P:M), Shadow Moses Island, and Mushroomy Kingdom (Metal Cavern in P:M).

 

[HenryZusa]

I tried to replace Shadow Moses Island with 3 Final Destinations, and now the game doesn't boot.
I already defragged my SD card.
I don't have any Shadow Moses Island .pacs in my build, in case that matters.

 

[hotdogturtle]

Lylat Cruise and Castle Siege load multiple pac files throughout the course of the match, so you can't replace them unless you basically a build the stage over those files (not worth the effort).

Smashville, Mushroomy Kingdom, Spear Pillar, and Shadow Moses Island load 1 file* at the beginning of the match, which is why you can replace each one individually without causing any problems.

*Smashville loads a different file depending on the time of day, all the other ones pick one randomly each time the stage is chosen.

 

[squeakyboots13]

I tried to replace Shadow Moses Island with 3 Final Destinations, and now the game doesn't boot.
I already defragged my SD card.
I don't have any Shadow Moses Island .pacs in my build, in case that matters.

Is the entire game not booting or does it just freeze when you select that stage?
Did you replace the module file for it?
Did you try removing the Final Destinations to make sure that's what causing the problem.

 

[HenryZusa]

The entire game wasn't booting.
Yeah, I replaced the corresponding .rels
I placed a custom Shadow Moses Island over Final Destination, but a 1 .pac version so I could have both stages.
I desisted on my try, so I decided to replaced Spear Pillar with 3 Final Destinations and now it works perfectly.

 

[squeakyboots13]

I've done the exact same thing you did before with Delfino Plaza with no issues, so I have no idea what the problem could've been.

 

[210stuna]

I have 3 Final Destinations over Shadow Moses Island.

My favorite 3 Final Destinations to be exact.