A Divided House

[Savon]

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Smash is a same that is not like other games. Smash has loads of character from franchises all together to hit each other with swords, laser, flying stars, and all kinds of other fun. Numerous game modes exist and I can personally say from first had experience that Smash has a huge variety of WTF moments. Smash is a game that is simple to pick up, but difficult to master.

I got into the serious competitive smash scene about a year ago, and it was absolutely amazing. I met lots of awesome people and it introduced me to Smashboards, one of the greatest message boards I have ever seen. Many of the friends I made from the tournaments have just become friends outside of smash. The community was full of outlandish personalities, inside jokes, and stories/events at tournaments. I sucked at the game at first, but I got better over time and the people at Dibbz (A internet cafe where most of the New Orleans tournaments are held) gave me valuable advice.

Many of the smash players are Dibbz would often make jokes about the brawl players there, but we would always ignore it. It was also during this time that people who played other fighters would try and demean smash as a whole and say it is not a fighting game. It was when I started to experience this that I began to wonder why smash itself is such a divided game when it faces ridicule from other fighters that it is not a fighter itself. One would think that under such circumstances smash would be a much more united community when treated in such a manner. I do not see Street Fighter players constantly criticizing each other for playing other games in the series different from their own, and if they do they certainly do not do it to the degree that people in the smash community tend to do. I play MvC3 and i do not see it, and it is something I do not see among the local Street Fighter players either. With that being said why is smash so divided? Smash has formula that virtually ANYBODY can get into regardless of level of play. It was something for everybody and overs an extremely unique and fresh experience, so why are smash players so divided among different games in the series when the games are pretty much universally good?

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

I think it's because Smash isn't even part of the fighting game community like you have Marvel and SF4, there's very little interaction between the two, except for occasional bashing. Smash is the smash scene and because we generally don't care about other fighters, we need something else to be hating. And that's each others games.

Then again, it's only Melee hating on Brawl, because you can't really hate on Melee if you play Brawl. But hating on Brawl is legit though ;D

 

[Zantetsu]

I think it's because Smash isn't even part of the fighting game community like you have Marvel and SF4, there's very little interaction between the two, except for occasional bashing. Smash is the smash scene and because we generally don't care about other fighters, we need something else to be hating. And that's each others games.

Then again, it's only Melee hating on Brawl, because you can't really hate on Melee if you play Brawl. But hating on Brawl is legit though ;D

I don't think this guy could be more right. I'm adding to it though.

Melee players hate on Brawl because of it's slowness, lack of technical gameplay, etc. It is also hated on because Brawl is what categorizes us all outside of the smash community. When a Street Fighter/Any other 2d fighter player looks at the Smash community, they see Brawl, not Melee, and because of this, the 2d fighter players start *****ing about a game that we Melee players don't even play.

 

[Savon]

I don't think this guy could be more right. I'm adding to it though.

Melee players hate on Brawl because of it's slowness, lack of technical gameplay, etc. It is also hated on because Brawl is what categorizes us all outside of the smash community. When a Street Fighter/Any other 2d fighter player looks at the Smash community, they see Brawl, not Melee, and because of this, the 2d fighter players start *****ing about a game that we Melee players don't even play.

So bashing brawl fixes that? I'm sorry dude but that is a really weak reason. What ever happened to just leaving one be? Why not just explain to the 2d fighter players why they are wrong rather than bash on a game when 1. It has done nothing, 2. Bashing on it does not fix the problem of 2d fighters viewing smash in a "negative" light.

 

[Fried Ice Cream]

The reason to bash on Brawl is basically because it's fun and to keep the tradition alive.

 

[MuraRengan]

I've heard that SF3 players hate SF4 for the same reasons that Melee players hate Brawl. The difference is in the extent of the changes made between the two games and the intents of the companies who made those games. The gap in required "skill" (put shortly to avoid unnecessary explanations) from SF3 to SF4 isn't nearly as great as from Melee to Brawl, and this is largely because the company that made SF4 didn't set out to make it a completely watered down game, unlike Sakurai who has made it pretty clear that that was his intent. SF3 players can accept SF4 players simply because the changes just aren't that bad, whereas from Melee to Brawl, they are. There's a lot more to hate about Brawl than there is to hate about SF4. This is what Melee player see in Brawl:

Here's a game that's supposed to be the next in line to follow a downright amazing game, but instead of something close to the incredible gameplay everyone was used to, they got a slowed down pace, tripping, Meta Knight, a substantial decrease in required fundementals and options, overly defensive gameplay, timing out as a strategy, planking, clumsily designed characters (Deedeedee and falco chaingrabs, grab releases on Wario, pikachu infiniting fox, etc.) and worst of all a community that doesn't recognize how ridiculous the aforementioned things are. What's more is that Brawl, which is worse than Melee in pretty much every way, is getting all the new players solely because it is new. And even more, there's the fact that the mastermind behind Melee has made it clear that he did not like how Melee developed and favors the characteristics he intended in Brawl.

There's a lot to hate about Brawl, a lot more than other fighters have. The Melee community has to struggle to prove to other fighting communities that smash in general is legit, but Brawl gets in the way of that, because lets face it, other fighting game communities will NEVER accept Brawl.

It may be nice to say that the Melee community should just leave Brawl alone and accept it for what it is, but on the other hand, the injuries to Smash's reputation and to the Melee community caused by Brawl are pretty big. I could understand why some people would not want to just let bygones be bygones. Not everyone has the maturity to do so. Melee players wanted a new game to move on to, because it is inevitable that age will get the better of it, however, Brawl did not come close to being good enough for Melee players to want to move on to it. So they're mad because they've been denied a chance to move on to the future, and instead they have to enjoy what they have left of the good game while an inferior game steals its growth and publicity. There's a lot of reason to be divided.

No offense meant in anything I said. You know me, I respect Brawl, but that doesn't change my views on its worth.