2 quick things

[Red Shirt KRT]

1. Not sure if this is new but I found you can spike captain falcon if he does ledge getup attack with hard knuckle. That means a hard knuckle covers 3 options, ledge jump, ledge hop aerial, and getup attack. Not sure if it hits all get up attacks or what the timing is but I know it can happen. I'll post a video later.

2. I hit this on pika, not sure how many chars it works on and it might only be if they DI towards you. But I hit pika with down throw->utilt, i'm pretty sure pika was at 0 percent maybe had a little more than that. Might be better to do uthrow to a different move not sure on the percents.

 

[ravemaster47]

Huh, seems like they messed with the getup options in this last patch. You can spike the getup attack as cloud too.

 

[p1ay6ack]

would like to see the video

 

[xIvan321]

1. Not sure if this is new but I found you can spike captain falcon if he does ledge getup attack with hard knuckle. That means a hard knuckle covers 3 options, ledge jump, ledge hop aerial, and getup attack. Not sure if it hits all get up attacks or what the timing is but I know it can happen. I'll post a video later.

2. I hit this on pika, not sure how many chars it works on and it might only be if they DI towards you. But I hit pika with down throw->utilt, i'm pretty sure pika was at 0 percent maybe had a little more than that. Might be better to do uthrow to a different move not sure on the percents.

The first one is assuming they lost invincibility in the first place, meaning they cannot attest with an aerial, or get up attack. Those are two things that are not invincible. When it gets to 100% invulnerability on the ledge actually runs out faster making get up attacks just in general weaker options. If you can bait it out then I'd guess its really good. I could imagine people falling for the pick up the metal blade from the ledge trap, and if they aren't kleptomaniacs then I guess they will always roll. Oh and this doesn't only just work on Falcon.

And I'm very familiar with that combo... Ehh Charge Smash (up/forward) tends to be better at that percent. If you're up for it, try down throw to diagonal-up metal blade and regrab your opponent after a short second read. It can be effective despite it not being a true combo.

 

[Red Shirt KRT]

I added the Ledge spike video to the OP i'll put it here too

 

[justimonEX]

Omg thank you! I found another way other than leaf shield->footstool to cheese on my friends.