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2 newish combos

MTFFFG

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I have been playing with Lucas for about a week now and he is my main if any of you wanted to know. I recently learned to air dodge-grab which helps alot. Dash dancing and pk waveland are also two important techniques. But combos are something different and i found two that could really help.

The first is a defensive comboish (like my new word :)) attack. If the opponent is someone with no range like ike or marth is chasing you, i found that you can run to the edge, auto rar then ff to a tether recovery. With no lag you can jump right back up surprising the opponent; maybe even getting behind them. I tried this against a level 9 computer because i don't have any friends :confused: and it worked perfectly. They chased me until i tether recovered. Then i jumped into the air and daired him. After that there were many openings that were created by this tactic.

The next one is also a defensive comboish attack. When or if the opponent is chasing you away from the edge, jump fully (no sh) and pk thunder up and around you until hitting yourself in midair. The opponent will do one of two things after you jump: either they will jump after you or stop and stay on the ground. If they jumped then they fell for your manuever. Just hit yourself perfectly horizontal and and you do a pkt2 hitting them. If they are on the ground just aim diagonally until hitting them. I find this to be useful as a mind game and as a freakishly strong attack.

I cannot put videos at the moment because i do not have a camcorder unless it's my phone. That will not work so just try it and critique my findings. thanks all for reading this freakishly long post about me:p
 

Levitas

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The auto RAR tether is more useful for edgehogging than for baiting.

The other thing, the PKT2 thing, is next to useless. Don't try that against a person, they'll either dodge the PKT2, or run away to where you're gonna end up and Fsmash you to an oblivion.

Also, there's a word for those things: They aren't combos, they're manuvers.
 

MTFFFG

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thank you for your harsh words levitas. I really enjoyed them. fine maybe they won't work but i do want to know more on how the auto rar tether is more useful for edgehogging? I am still learning all of these things.
 

Levitas

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I didn't mean to be harsh, sorry if it came out that way. I'm trying to break this habit I have of aiming PKT2s at people on the stage, it invariably gets me Usmashed by Ikes, and that kills things. If it works for you on your friends, that's cool too.

The auto RAR tether gets you to the edge really quickly, and is good because most Up Bs have hitboxes that'll knock you off the edge (like Marth's). So the idea is you Auto RAR without attacking, tether the edge and hang there until the opponent is about to Up b. So at that point, you press A to close in on the edge and gain invincibility. The opponent will then Up B into an invincible Lucas that is hanging on to the edge and fall to their doom.
 

MTFFFG

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Wouldn't be easier to just hug the edge. I think its a little quicker unless the invincibility time is lessened by this. I see your point and see it as a great edge gaurd. thanks
 
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