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- Thread starter Shiri
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I didn't attend tournaments before Brawl came out, but from what I gather there are a lot of new people showing their faces nowadays... and there's a lot more of them. I can tell that the Melee players have known and played with each other for years. Many of them don't even play Brawl. That's all well and good, I guess, but I have to admit I'm worried about Melee slipping out of existence.
You know the '08 joiner syndrome? That's sort of what seems to be happening at tournaments. I dunno if all us Melee people need to stop being old farts or whatever and lighten up, but it's certainly a different attitude. To fix your problem, or perhaps to pretend it doesn't exist, I would suggest hosting Melee/Brawl tournies, so that the part of the community you like can still be involved in some way.
You know the '08 joiner syndrome? That's sort of what seems to be happening at tournaments. I dunno if all us Melee people need to stop being old farts or whatever and lighten up, but it's certainly a different attitude. To fix your problem, or perhaps to pretend it doesn't exist, I would suggest hosting Melee/Brawl tournies, so that the part of the community you like can still be involved in some way.
yoshihybrid
Smash Rookie
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From what I've seen, Sakurai knew what he was doing when trying to attract the biggest crowd for this game. As soon as my store started inviting proffesional people to play brawl (we're a fairly small shop, and no one there has yet to truely counter my Yoshi, hence why he hired muscle) everyones been scared of entering tornements, especially at $5 a head. Invites are nice for biggest places, but one fundimental remains...
Keep the game fun. Definiatively, the event we do that gets by far the most people sitting in seats, either watching or competing is the 4 man free. Its such an easily customizable thing, not truely an event persay, but while your setting up the tornement, let random people battle eachother. Keep the TV's in an easily viewable location, and anyone with smash history (and even some who don't) suddenly have some intrest. Another good thing to do is make up awards, like biggest upset, most epic smash or combo, biggest wtf o' da night, most unique playstyle, most tenatious, things like that. If people have ways that they can feel good even if they don't win, they like to come back.
Biggest, most important thing,
Build community!
Keep the game fun. Definiatively, the event we do that gets by far the most people sitting in seats, either watching or competing is the 4 man free. Its such an easily customizable thing, not truely an event persay, but while your setting up the tornement, let random people battle eachother. Keep the TV's in an easily viewable location, and anyone with smash history (and even some who don't) suddenly have some intrest. Another good thing to do is make up awards, like biggest upset, most epic smash or combo, biggest wtf o' da night, most unique playstyle, most tenatious, things like that. If people have ways that they can feel good even if they don't win, they like to come back.
Biggest, most important thing,
Build community!
Well, let's see. I live in Tennessee, 2 and a half hours away from Tennessee's biggest smash scene. 6 hours from the other. Pnly two smash communites have been formed in Tennessee, and I'm 15. With no time to travel, I have only played local tournaments. Sure they're okay but after you win them all with CG's from ICs. It gets boring. You get accused of hacking Brawl. But they just don't know anything. So yeah, I'm doomed to play online for a few years. And currently I haven't touched Brawl in 2 weeks. Except to play Depster, and that's it. Brawl is starting to bore me. I may not be able to beat everyone, yeah playing Azen was cool. But it really gets boring. I actually spent 7 hours trying to figure out if Yoshi had anymore techs. After that I haven't touched it since. But to sum my essay up here, there is hardly a smash community in my area. The only person I know that is on here from Chattanooga is one person, and that's it. I'm the only person from Cleveland. But Knoxville is out of reach and Memphis is a definite no. I tried to get a tournament in Chatt. but I don't know how to do it or someone to host it. How to get supplies there, housing, I HAVE NO CLUE! I'm to young to do it currently, so I guess I'm going to have to stand by and let someone else take the reins in my area. But there currently is no one.
SOVAman
Smash Hero
I live in NoVA and did not attend really any tournaments in Melee but now I am attending tournaments in Brawl. The one real difference is there are more tournaments being held in Brawl. Also the only good tournament used to be held in Chu Datz house before the C3. Now there is a venue with lots of TVs and not a lot of set ups. Since threre isn't a lot of set ups its easier to see the competition during friendlies. And to gladly find out I am the only Yoshi because Yoster stoped using Yoshi. Also its only a 45 minute drive to the venue but there proboly not going to be another tournament there soon because of Critical Hit 3 and Chu's final bi-weekly. Also, we want to host tournaments in Reston but we are having trouble finding a good venue. We have a person that can host it but no venue. Thanks Shiri for starting the thread in the Yoshi forum.
bigman40
Smash Master
I can't even say about my community. I've only been to 3 melee tournies before brawl came out, and I haven't been to a brawl tourney yet (some have been done while I'm at college 
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Mainly all the good melee players don't care about brawl unless their mood is flexible enough, but they'll mostly always come to a melee tournament. Many brawl tournaments are more than an hour away from me, and my limited cash flow prohibits me from going out that far.
I've been thinking of trying to host a series of tournaments my self in GA next summer with a few friends. So far, my turnout isn't looking good, and idk if I will decide to host it if I can't get a decent turnout. (I know some people from TN said that they would come if I got a good turnout) Hopefully, I can get some sparks going in GA so that we can hold huge tournies get on the map as a good smash place.
). Mainly all the good melee players don't care about brawl unless their mood is flexible enough, but they'll mostly always come to a melee tournament. Many brawl tournaments are more than an hour away from me, and my limited cash flow prohibits me from going out that far.
I've been thinking of trying to host a series of tournaments my self in GA next summer with a few friends. So far, my turnout isn't looking good, and idk if I will decide to host it if I can't get a decent turnout. (I know some people from TN said that they would come if I got a good turnout) Hopefully, I can get some sparks going in GA so that we can hold huge tournies get on the map as a good smash place.
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Hmm, well in socal, lots of good players(mango), hate brawl and play melee. In my city, we have alot of new players, but most of the old players also play brawl, and mostly have adapted, even if they like melee more. I like melee more but brawl is fine too. =/
Bwett
Smash Ace
In Dallas, there was a pretty big problem. Once brawl came out, most of the top melee players rejected it, saying it wasn't fun, it was slow, and was nothing compared to Melee, but they were negotiable, so our weeklies were held for brawl and melee.
However, over time, that fell apart, and the weeklies split into two different factions. There was my group, which is known as the Bwogo Biweekly, and there was also Bluezaft's melee group. Some of the melee people are starting to gain small interest in brawl, but for the most part, all of them refuse to play it anymore and stick solely to melee, if that anymore.
That is the history of how Melee and Brawl were separated in Dallas.
Now on to the actual people in this community. Back in melee days, there was a large amount of respect for everyone. Everyone knew how difficult it was to get to the position they were in and applauded the skill that they had obtained. Once brawl came out, a shift in priority had been noticed.
All of this was present in the first few months of the game. Newcomers find this world of competitive gaming open up to them, and they want a taste of fame that has fallen up many melee players like Wobbles and M2K. So you will find these 14-18 yr olds who care nothing more than to beat anyone any which way they can, brag about it on the boards, and flame anyone who criticizes their style. Hence the reason for so many "AT's" in the beginning and the J-shine and all that stupid crap. Of course, I'm not saying that all smash rookies are like that, but quite a few are. Humbleness and humility at getting 3-stocked has turned into flaming and revenge.
NOW, the boards have become quiet of these people. The order has, for the most part, been restored. Those that flamed and whatnot are still here, but they realize that to get respect, you must show respect. They learn the etiquette needed to become great, to achieve their goal, from the old melee players that have switched over. And so the cycle shall continue...forever...lol
However, over time, that fell apart, and the weeklies split into two different factions. There was my group, which is known as the Bwogo Biweekly, and there was also Bluezaft's melee group. Some of the melee people are starting to gain small interest in brawl, but for the most part, all of them refuse to play it anymore and stick solely to melee, if that anymore.
That is the history of how Melee and Brawl were separated in Dallas.
Now on to the actual people in this community. Back in melee days, there was a large amount of respect for everyone. Everyone knew how difficult it was to get to the position they were in and applauded the skill that they had obtained. Once brawl came out, a shift in priority had been noticed.
All of this was present in the first few months of the game. Newcomers find this world of competitive gaming open up to them, and they want a taste of fame that has fallen up many melee players like Wobbles and M2K. So you will find these 14-18 yr olds who care nothing more than to beat anyone any which way they can, brag about it on the boards, and flame anyone who criticizes their style. Hence the reason for so many "AT's" in the beginning and the J-shine and all that stupid crap. Of course, I'm not saying that all smash rookies are like that, but quite a few are. Humbleness and humility at getting 3-stocked has turned into flaming and revenge.
NOW, the boards have become quiet of these people. The order has, for the most part, been restored. Those that flamed and whatnot are still here, but they realize that to get respect, you must show respect. They learn the etiquette needed to become great, to achieve their goal, from the old melee players that have switched over. And so the cycle shall continue...forever...lol
SOVAman
Smash Hero
This is pretty cool since there are Yoshi's from all different smash communities so you get to hear about a lot of the communities and how they transitioned thanks again Shiri for starting this thread in the Yoshi forum.