1 Final Smash per Character or Actually two?

[Xtremee]

Ok i have seen so far that Samus is the only character who has two FS Zero Beam and the one that transform Zero Suit Samus in her power Suit but here is the thing what if in brawl there are more characters with transformations? like Bowser-Giga Bowser + Smash Ball = Giga Attack? i mean we have Zelda expeculation right now that if she transform into shiek will shiek have a different FS rather than The LIght Arrow?

then who knows which other character will have a Transformation what do you guys think?

sorry for the lame Giga Bowser Example

Zelda/Shiek it's better

 

[Kasek]

Samus and Zamus are two different characters altogether, thus they have differing FS's. Zelda and Sheik will have two different FS's, because THEY are two different characters. Bowser and Giga Bowser will NOT have seperate FS's, because they are ONE AND THE SAME. Heck, G. Bowser IS Bowser's FS, so he's not going to have one. Same goes for Wario-Man and Super Sonic.

Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard are considered one character, so THEY have only ONE FS, as well.

I find this thread pointless.

 

[OnyxVulpine]

Zelda might have two if she has Sheik.

-Onyx

 

[Coselm]

Samus and Zamus are two different characters altogether, thus they have differing FS's. Zelda and Sheik will have two different FS's, because THEY are two different characters. Bowser and Giga Bowser will NOT have seperate FS's, because they are ONE AND THE SAME. Heck, G. Bowser IS Bowser's FS, so he's not going to have one. Same goes for Wario-Man and Super Sonic.

Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard are considered one character, so THEY have only ONE FS, as well.

I find this thread pointless.

Don't be a jerk!

Anyways, to answer your question, I doubt characters will have two final smashes but you never know.

You made me wonder what would happen if you got a smash ball while doing your final smash. Like if you were sonic, and you got a smash ball, what would happen?

I think you would probably jsut be ready to use another final smash once you have used your existing one.

 

[~tgm_Zeej]

Samus and Zamus are two different characters altogether, thus they have differing FS's. Zelda and Sheik will have two different FS's, because THEY are two different characters. Bowser and Giga Bowser will NOT have seperate FS's, because they are ONE AND THE SAME. Heck, G. Bowser IS Bowser's FS, so he's not going to have one. Same goes for Wario-Man and Super Sonic.

Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard are considered one character, so THEY have only ONE FS, as well.

I find this thread pointless.

I'm sorry, but that makes no sense.

Zelda and Sheik are one entity, as are Giga Bowser and Bowser, Sonic and Super Sonic, and Wario and Warioman. The PT's Pokemon are not. So why would Zelda/Sheik get two when they are more or less the exact same person, if the Pokemon all have the same FS and they are truly different entities?

Seriously, explain this to me...

 

[Kasek]

Don't be a jerk!

Anyways, to answer your question, I doubt characters will have two final smashes but you never know.

You made me wonder what would happen if you got a smash ball while doing your final smash. Like if you were sonic, and you got a smash ball, what would happen?

I think you would probably jsut be ready to use another final smash once you have used your existing one.

Sorry, I was in a bad mood. Brawl hasn't been the only thing depriving me of sleep of late.

But... now I am also curious about this. That, and what happens if you grab two Smash Balls in a row without using the first one?

Tatsuman: Because while Zelda/Sheik are very different characters, the Pokemon all still serve the PT. PT isn't referred to as Squirtle/Ivysaur/Charizard, is he? No. But we do refer to Zelda/Sheik as such, and not just Zelda. It's basic intuition/sense to me, maybe that's why other people might find it weird.

 

[WarxePB]

My logic would dictate that, during a FS, Smash Balls would be disabled until the FS is over. This would be in effect for every FS, not just the transformation ones.

But who knows? While it's not very likely that Mario will get a Smash Ball while performing Mario Finale, if Smash Balls aren't disabled, we might see Wario's "true" Final Smash or Giga Bowser for an entire match.

 

[Xtremee]

since when samus and Zero suit samus are different Characters?
is like saying that Goku when transform into SSJ form isn't Goku
or Megaman Gainin a new armor isn't megaman

that's the same saying that Mario and Mario without a hat are different Characters

stiill this goes to those characters whose FS is not transformation i mean if Zelda does transform into Shiek , Zelda has already a FS the Light Arrow so at least i think Shiek deserves her own FS

sonic, wario and Giga have a Transformation Final Smash already so they are out of question and reasoning let's just stay for those characters who will use a transformation as a special move not a FS

 

[Coselm]

Sorry, I was in a bad mood. Brawl hasn't been the only thing depriving me of sleep of late.

But... now I am also curious about this. That, and what happens if you grab two Smash Balls in a row without using the first one?

I'm guessing it would go to waste jsut like when you pick up a heat or maximum tomato when you have 0%. The only point to getting it would be to ensure your opponent wouldn't.

I think this would be awesome:

Say you are Samus. You have your final smash. Another smash ball appears. Your opponent struggles to get it. Just when they are about to break it open... BOOM! You blow them to hell, and hit the smash ball with your huge beam and break the smash ball, thus earning you another final smash.

Unlikely that it would work out like that but that would be awesome.

 

[Spellweaver]

Sorry, I was in a bad mood. Brawl hasn't been the only thing depriving me of sleep of late.

But... now I am also curious about this. That, and what happens if you grab two Smash Balls in a row without using the first one?

My assumption would be that a Small Ball doesn't spawn if there is already one in play. (Either held by a character or still flying around on the screen.)

It wouldn't make logical sense for a Smash ball to appear when there is already one active.

 

[Chepe]

Samus and Zamus are different characters since they each have a separate profile on the Dojo. That means each gets a different Special Moves update, distinct Final Smash, etc.

Im baffled as to how people couldnt understand that...

 

[Coselm]

A little off topic, but if Sheik is in Brawl, she most assuredly will have a different final smash than Zelda.

 

[~tgm_Zeej]

Because while Zelda/Sheik are very different characters, the Pokemon all still serve the PT. PT isn't referred to as Squirtle/Ivysaur/Charizard, is he? No. But we do refer to Zelda/Sheik as such, and not just Zelda. It's basic intuition/sense to me, maybe that's why other people might find it weird.

Yes, but in game it never refers to Zelda as Zelda/Sheik. She is usually just referred to as Zelda. Sheik in one instance.

Besides, what could Sheik really do for an FS?

 

[Kasek]

I'm guessing it would go to waste jsut like when you pick up a heat or maximum tomato when you have 0%. The only point to getting it would be to ensure your opponent wouldn't.

I think this would be awesome:

Say you are Samus. You have your final smash. Another smash ball appears. Your opponent struggles to get it. Just when they are about to break it open... BOOM! You blow them to hell, and hit the smash ball with your huge beam and break the smash ball, thus earning you another final smash.

Unlikely that it would work out like that but that would be awesome.

Hehe, switch straight back to regular Samus. You should wait until everyone respawns, though. This idea'd be better with the Mario Finale or Triple Finish, though.

 

[Thi0s]

Wow when I saw the title I thought you meant customizable Final Smashes that you can choose for each character, which would be pretty neat.
Anyway, I assume that one cannot attack the smash ball if they already have one, assuming that there can be multiple smash balls in play.

 

[Xtremee]

Samus and Zamus are different characters since they each have a separate profile on the Dojo. That means each gets a different Special Moves update, distinct Final Smash, etc.

Im baffled as to how people couldnt understand that...

well they play different because they have different moveset but aren't they the same person?

 

[Demon Kirby]

Giga Bowser: Final Smash <Trogdor the Burninator Transformation>

 

[~tgm_Zeej]

since when samus and Zero suit samus are different Characters?
is like saying that Goku when transform into SSJ form isn't Goku
or Megaman Gainin a new armor isn't megaman

that's the same saying that Mario and Mario without a hat are different Characters

stiill this goes to those characters whose FS is not transformation i mean if Zelda does transform into Shiek , Zelda has already a FS the Light Arrow so at least i think Shiek deserves her own FS

sonic, wario and Giga have a Transformation Final Smash already so they are out of question and reasoning let's just stay for those characters who will use a transformation as a special move not a FS

Two FSs that you can switch between that easily? Zamus doesn't have a good FS to begin with and you can't switch between the characters.

So Sheik and Zelda each with a different Final Smash? That's curry level broken.

 

[Spellweaver]

Giga Bowser: Final Smash <Trogdor the Burninator Transformation>

Gigabower's Final Smash: "Just jump off."

 

[Xtremee]

Two FSs that you can switch between that easily? Zamus doesn't have a good FS to begin with and you can't switch between the characters.

So Sheik and Zelda each with a different Final Smash? That's curry level broken.

yeah ZSS FS Sucks but if people have items always off they won't get the chance to play with her

and regarding Zelda and shiek it's true
but it will make her the coolest

Gigabower's Final Smash: "Just jump off."

Giga Bowser FS, Roar of Fury

 

[Chepe]

well they play different because they have different moveset but aren't they the same person?

They are the same person, yes, but not the same character. There IS a difference in this game and with certain clones it was in Melee... Samus and Zero Suit Samus both have their own distinct abilities, while Giga Bowser and such are just beefed up versions of their character.

Zelda and Sheik would have separate Final Smashes if they both exist, most likely.

 

[Xtremee]

They are the same person, yes, but not the same character. There IS a difference in this game and with certain clones it was in Melee... Samus and Zero Suit Samus both have their own distinct abilities, while Giga Bowser and such are just beefed up versions of their character.

Zelda and Sheik would have separate Final Smashes if they both exist, most likely.

i was wondering which other character they could add with a transformation special move

just off topic but imagine you are kirby anf you shallow mario and then you grab a smash ball...

will you do Kirby's FS or Mario's?

 

[Kasek]

i was wondering which other character they could add with a transformation special move

just off topic but imagine you are kirby anf you shallow mario and then you grab a smash ball...

will you do Kirby's FS or Mario's?

The ability to copy FS's would be EPIC, but...no. Just, no.

And my first post seems to have garnered me some hate. Why is Zamus a seperate character when G. Bowser is not? Because Zamus is the RESULT of an FS, and G. Bowser IS the FS.

Why aren't Squirtle/Ivysaur/Charizard seperate characters, when Samus and Zamus are? BECAUSE THE DOJO SAYS SO, THAT'S WHY.

 

[WarxePB]

i was wondering which other character they could add with a transformation special move

just off topic but imagine you are kirby anf you shallow mario and then you grab a smash ball...

will you do Kirby's FS or Mario's?

Zero Suit Kirby.

Also, Samus and Zamus are considered to be two separate characters - they have different profiles on the Dojo. Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard are all under the "Pokemon Trainer" character - they didn't get their own updates. This is due to the mechanics of the characters. Zamus isn't integral to Samus' moveset - it's just an addition. Pokemon Trainer requires you to switch between the Pokemon.
Zelda and Sheik are in-between. Both characters exist as standalone movesets that are supposed to complement each other, but can easily exist without one another. It's hard to say if they'll get separate FS's, but I bet that they will.

 

[Kasek]

Zero Suit Kirby.

Also, Samus and Zamus are considered to be two separate characters - they have different profiles on the Dojo. Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard are all under the "Pokemon Trainer" character - they didn't get their own updates. This is due to the mechanics of the characters. Zamus isn't integral to Samus' moveset - it's just an addition. Pokemon Trainer requires you to switch between the Pokemon.
Zelda and Sheik are in-between. Both characters exist as standalone movesets that are supposed to complement each other, but can easily exist without one another. It's hard to say if they'll get separate FS's, but I bet that they will.

Reading this makes me realize that this is what that nagging voice in the back of my head was trying to say without opening its mouth.

 

[Xtremee]

Reading this makes me realize that this is what that nagging voice in the back of my head was trying to say without opening its mouth.

very treu you might be right but still the fact that Zelda/Shiek would have two FS is still epic...

 

[Mic_128]

Don't be a jerk!

He wasn't, and is correct.

Each character has only 1 FS.