1.0.8 Change Thread

[JayWon]

Replays are non compatible meaning balance has been tweaked. Please report any differences here.

 

[FoGxTempest]

Pikachu's quick attack has landing lag now
up tilt is untouched. thats all I know for now

 

[Ritronaut]

Pikachu's quick attack has landing lag now
up tilt is untouched. thats all I know for now

Quick attack is the same to my knowledge. What do you mean it has landing lag now?

 

[Zajice]

Do not scare me like that.

 

[FoGxTempest]

I cant neutral air out of quick attack anymore

 

[Ritronaut]

QA Canceling is still in! Idk what you're talking about though, i don't notice any more landing lag it's pretty much exactly the same.

 

[FoGxTempest]

Yeah, disregard what I said, I just compared to pre patch. Still the same

 

[RODO]

Idk it feels different somehow. QAC on battlefield isn't as responsive as it was but still doable. I don't know what's different but it feels different.

 

[Zajice]

The only thing that's really different is the new ledge shenanigans, where specials no longer make you slide off. This means you can run and Thunder the ledge without flying off it.

This DOES NOT effect Quick Attack in any way, which still behaves the same for ledge canceling. You're canceling the landing with the slide you get from QAing into the floor at an angle, not the move itself.

 

[Soul.]

Ledges seem to have been changed.
Ugh, why god dammit. QALC is still there; guess it'll be somewhat harder.

Also before anyone asks, customs are unchanged. Heavy Skull Bash still has that weird *** "hitstun makes you fly farther" thing.

Everything else is the same.

 

[LunarWingCloud]

I hope Pikachu isn't changed much. I don't wanna cry again today, I already cried when I struggled to get the DLC downloaded.

I didn't actually cry.

 

[Parkachu0]

QAC is the same. Halberd still has that weird anomaly where you can QAC to the right. HSB combos are still in full effect. Luigi is still a ***** and a half to beat. If I may be so bold, I'd say Pikachu is unchanged

 

[Soul.]

The ledges are the only thing that were changed. Placebo might be a factor; I'll keep checking.
Pika wasn't touched at all.

 

[Pikabunz]

The knockback on all his moves are the same.

 

[Aura Guardian]

Was aerial Thunder jolt nerfed? Just a question. I don't seem to have much freedom with secondary thunderjolt follow ups as fast as I use to.

 

[NachoThePikachu]

Maybe it's just me after messing around with Pika and reading this topic, but am I the only one who feels like maybe Pika's QA angles were changed a little bit? Disregarding QALC, when i'm in the middle of the stage QAing around, sometimes i'll end up throwing out a skull bash instead on accident. It's weird, because i've never done that before (well, maybe once or twice, but not three times within a given match)

Maybe it's just me messing up my inputs, hah, but I was just wondering if anyone knows if the angling on his QA was changed at all. It feels really awkward to fail at trying to QALC AND move around the stage all derpy. @.@"

 

[RODO]

Esam confirmed that QA is different

 

[Soul.]

How different, though? Was he talking about QA ledge cancels?
I don't see a difference [on the move itself].

 

[Ritronaut]

ugh they did SOMETHING to our quick attack, I can't tell what it is though. I'm pretty sure its not placebo, but it could be.

 

[RODO]

If you ever quick attack canceled on platforms frequently before the patch it's obvious. The angles are slightly different than they used to be but its still there.

 

[RODO]

I have video of why it's different now. Stay tuned and I will make a thread soon

 

[Deleted member]

I was using the angles from ESAM'S QAC video and they are different somehow. Still trying to lab.

 

[LunarWingCloud]

Since I actually didn't get into using QAC yet, I didn't try it, but everything else I was testing out felt the same, so except for that, I think Pikachu is off without much change again.

 

[RODO]

Thread is up now http://smashboards.com/threads/quick-attack-change-on-platforms.406314/#post-19419346

 

[Kaladin]

I'm sick and weak and can't get out of bed to lab. Does anyone have anything conclusive on what they did to my QA? QA is bae.

 

[Soul.]

QA wasn't changed.
The new angles/whatever are better than nothing. Placebo is another thing; ledge cancel changes seem to be true however.

 

[Coro_]

I'm not sure if it's just me, but dtilt seems to be able to link into itself twice before knocking the opponent away, provided it doesn't trip.
I noticed it during play yesterday, it used to hit opponents away immediately but now I can hit it twice. Can't remember who exactly I was hitting with it, though
Maybe someone can test it?

 

[Ritronaut]

I'm not sure if it's just me, but dtilt seems to be able to link into itself twice before knocking the opponent away, provided it doesn't trip.
I noticed it during play yesterday, it used to hit opponents away immediately but now I can hit it twice. Can't remember who exactly I was hitting with it, though
Maybe someone can test it?

At lower percents I wouldn't be surprised if down tilt sometimes his twice.

I tested a little, true combos puff at 15% and fox at 30%

 

[JayWon]

According to @Thinkaman 's data mine analysis, Pikachu received absolutely no change

 

[RODO]

According to @Thinkaman 's data mine analysis, Pikachu received absolutely no change

Pikachu received no changes but ledge mechanics changed making the way his QALC works different.

 

[LunarWingCloud]

According to @Thinkaman 's data mine analysis, Pikachu received absolutely no change

Relieving and also ironic to see noted in a change thread lol