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Wow, Dair DOES cover every ledge option. AWESOME

I think Game & Watch does okay against Cloud, mainly because of dash attack.

I don't think G&W is advantageous against Cloud. Dunno. I feel like I'm not playing the MU right.

You're good at nailing the meteor with cloud's DAir tbh

I practiced landing it a LOT, basically I've memorized the timing haha.

I don't think he's advantageous either, it just doesn't feel like a big loss.

It might not be. I have no clue! Seems pretty okay but not great regardless, but hey! Could be worse, could be Cloud vs. Ike. That matchup is....sad

The outcome doesn't matter. I GOT THAT FAIR LOL

All riiiight, GGs! I had fun. You're good with quite a few characters.

GGs to you as well! I like to think I'm proficient with a handful, my best are obviously Doc/Cloud/Mario, *points at signature*

Was kind of sad you never pulled out Ryu. Did you decide that he didn't fit your groove?

My best are probably Game & Watch, Villager, and Mewtwo, but the latter two need a lot of work to match up with the 2-D fellow. If any other of my characters stood out, tell me!

I've lost my drive to play Ryu. He's not too difficult so much as I find him unorthodox and requiring of a different mentality that I just don't have. I'm an enthusiast for Ryu though! Those three seemed your best, as well.

Ryu's fun but I'm terrible with him. Should have brought out my Ganon again, I'm not as great with him in dittos but better otherwise.

I feel I'm also pretty good with ROB and want to get better with Gunner. Liking Little Mac was a huge surprise because his air game is poor but I love how he plays.

Your Roy is pretty good as well!

PS Cloud is stupid =P. REALLY he is.

I agree. Super fluid with both range and power. His recovery is like a necessary weakness, heh.

I'd really only nerf the power of a few of his attacks and increase his (landing) lag on aerials to balance him though.

they'll probably do neither so WELCOME OUR NEW MAKO OVERLORDS!

Real talk he's probs Top 10 (IMO 9th or 10th)

He probably still loses to Sheik and maybe ZSS so who cares, right?

I don't think he loses to ZSS at all actually. He also has one of the better Sheik MUs IMO. It's just his other top tier MUs can vary and I don't think he's as OVERALL strong as Ryu. He has specific MU stuff though. Heh heh heh.

I was honestly just guessing about ZSS. To tell the truth, I don't necessarily think she's second best, just that one of the best players uses her excellently. She's got some stupid stuff though.

Who do you feel he loses to?

I'm not sure who he NOTABLY loses to. I mean, Sheik I guess? It's just that I don't think he super dominates the perceived viable top tier characters either. He loses to Sheik but not super bad so it's a competitive MU regardless IMO.