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Recent content by Torn

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    A Guide to Marth's Gimping Game Categorized by Character

    Hmm... Many of you are discussing specific characters and mentioning how this character or that may have a recovery with some contrary element to what I've said. I think the best way to explain myself is to explain that anytime I mention something specific, like Diddy Kong's inability to...
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    A Proposal Regarding Marth's Honor--The Ness/Lucas 'Chaingrab'

    Proverbs, let us consider for a moment Ness. Ness is a completely viable character, no worse than two-thirds of the cast with everything it takes to win every conceivable tournament in the right hands. Unfortunately, that two-thirds of the cast may use (abuse) a programming oversight in the...
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    A Proposal Regarding Marth's Honor--The Ness/Lucas 'Chaingrab'

    Oh, please, don't simplify this enormously complex and variably-resulting matter into a simple question of right or wrong. Quite simply, the only remaining Nesses and Lucases have already been informed of this tactic and are taking their chances by maining their Earthbounder. In the...
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    Help with rolling. (please no rude comments)

    Wait, why haven't anyone mentioned Counter as a punish for smashes thus far? All these techniques (I'm a fan of Dancing Blade as a punisher myself) are completely viable and to be encouraged but if that Fox is going to roll behind you and C-Stick an F-Smash, why not cut out the middle man and...
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    A Proposal Regarding Marth's Honor--The Ness/Lucas 'Chaingrab'

    I completely understand your viewpoint and it's not unreasonable at all to make it known that this kind of thing is abusable, but in a tournament setting, I am absolutely going to use release grabbing to make sure I win against either Earthbounder. In that kind of scenario, you have to...
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    A Guide to Marth's Gimping Game Categorized by Character

    Hey, thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it. Anything in particular you think would be helpful for people to know that would let me add depth without being redundant or long-winded? I definitely do want to make this thing better and I A) have time B) enjoy writing this kind of thing...
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    Rate my Marth*update*

    Now I'm really curious; I'm trying to learn more about how most people practice (online, CPUs, Boss Rush etc.) to get a working understanding of how to help people learn better - mind adding to the compendium of knowledge? Torn
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    Why shield grab

    Well, as someone mentioned earlier, fighting against Lucas or Ness means this thread's name becomes "why side+b out of shield." Marth can infinitely grab and release Ness and Lucas (it's pretty easy, try it against a level 9) until the PK user in question takes enough damage that they will No...
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    Ness help

    Yes, release grab. This guy is just asking for release grab. Scrubs who complain about game mechanics and capitalize on winning against you once deserve to have such a bad experience with the game that they quit. Protip: try to make your friend quit and go play Bioshock or something. Torn
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    Hello! I really need help against Marth.

    Try to camp more. I'm gonna go ahead and side with the general opinion in this thread advising you to stay back and use your laser effectively. Resist the temptation to get in close and personal with Marth: his sword outranges you most of the time and he's just generally a very aggressive...
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    A Guide to Marth's Gimping Game Categorized by Character

    Answers Yeah, haha, anyone with any experience fighting Yoshi knows he's a master of recovery. Quick aside: is his Up+B only a one-time boost or does it chain? I haven't really observed this fact; I do know it's really tricky to approach, however, and if he can do it multiple times to...
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    A Guide to Marth's Gimping Game Categorized by Character

    Agreed Yeah, that's an inventive use of Counter on the Marth's part to combat Aether. If you watch the first couple seconds and throughout the match though, Aether's seriously giving the Marth trouble. It's a good tactic to stand on the edge and Counter, but mostly, Aether's just hard to...
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    A Guide to Marth's Gimping Game Categorized by Character

    Difference of ranges No, R.O.B's nair is very hard to space against; we all know it's very powerful and the hitbox is frankly broken. It is laggy though, so if you space it, that's pure profit, but mostly just be aware of it and adjust accordingly. Usually a R.O.B can afford to nair and then...
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    Rate my Marth*update*

    Counter Your Marth is not bad; you do play kind of like a Melee Marth, you should really watch for openings for your F-smashes and Up+Bs instead of using them when they usually might not hit. The Up+B especially is very punishable; your opponent will look for these vulnerabilities and attack...
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    Jump-Sliding?

    Tripping? Yeah, this phenomenon has been well-documented and observed thus far, I guess it could be used as a beginning of stutter-stepping or to pull out a RAR really quickly. The method is obvious, just DI where you want to slide, I notice Marth slides especially so, but I also notice that...
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