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Recent content by Poisonous

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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Fatality has plenty of Wario experience via Reflex in past though. If anyone knows the MU, it's him.
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    Don't want to clog up the thread, 'a far cry' probably wasn't the right expression as Ixis is a...

    Don't want to clog up the thread, 'a far cry' probably wasn't the right expression as Ixis is a notable threat in his own right. I didn't mean to insult him in any way, there were definitely better terms to use to state what I meant. I do believe though that there is a gap between him and Glutonny.
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Shulk honestly isn't a disastrous MU for Wario (slight disadvantage, nothing crazy like people assume), Glutonny's biggest problem at Civil War was that he held forward far too much. He lost to Day in losers 3-2 iirc, a MU Wario honestly has no place losing. It was sadly offstream, but most...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Doing a rising dair is a much easier way to force the semi-spike, or going for a trade vs moves like firefox/corrin's upb. Rising dair is known to have chars fall out of it the most, which is why dair OoS isn't always a good idea vs med-height chars at kill %s since they'll sometimes just plop out.
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Wario will never be more than a mid tier without any patches. Warios are blessed with having two PHENOMENAL players as their top reps, Reflex and Glutonny, but don't let their personal skill confuse you. Besides these two there are a plethora of great Warios out there honestly, but the current...
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    SSB4 Kill Throws

    I'm curious how you got Bowser's Fthrow to kill at 145-150 and Wario's Fthrow to kill at 165. Bowser's Fthrow: Base damage: 12% Angle: 45* BKB: 60 KBG: 66 Wario's Fthrow: Base damage: 12% Angle: 45* BKB: 60 KBG: 65 A 1* difference in KBG does not equal a 15-20% difference in kill power, I'm...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    With heavier characters, it can do more than just let you escape Fox utilt/DA even. He's the first character that I looked at when I was thinking about CC's effectiveness. Example: With Fox at 70%, Wario CCing a fresh early hit utilt between 0-21% will leave him at least +5 (wink wink half waft...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    What uses does it have in the Bayo MU? I've been looking into CC recently, but I couldn't find a solid use for it in the Bayo mu. For instance, even vs 0 % Wario CCing, Fair 1 is +5 (links into upb). I do agree that CC is underutilized, but I'm curious what uses you've found for these...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    For what it's worth, Reflex agrees with this strategy. The set that you reference, Reflex vs Dog w/ Hips doesn't go to game 5, it actually goes to game 6. Reflex lost to a random Bayonetta and he 6-0'd Dog w/ hips in grands without employing this strategy. He says he did so because he...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Wario's neutral isn't amazing, but it's good enough to to get in on aure-less Lucario a few times. It doesn't matter how many times Lucario hits Wario while Wario is looking for the waft either, he isn't going to kill him without a hard commitment - one that is punishable with waft. Wario...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Not really sure how that helps them? Aura sphere at 0 is absolutely non threatening, Aura Sphere at 50 is also non threatening. Them doing that literally is what Wario wants. I fail to see how that puts a flaw in what I stated. Aura Sphere is amazing, but it requires Lucario to have a decent bit...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Hahaha, no. This is the Wario and Lucario MU: Wario bans FD and abuses his mobility and platforms to run after for the first two minutes of the match to get waft. Wario gets Lucario to around 40-50% and waits for a waft confirm or opportunity since Lucario's frame data is trash. Lucario should...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V3 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    I'll entertain this, what top rep does Charizard have and how do they compare to Reflex/Glutonny? The only notable Charizards only have him as a secondary or tertiary character as far as I know (Serge/Anti). I would say with 100% certainty that Wario has better high level rep than Charizard as...
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    Ranking moves in Characters (Round 21: Discussing Down-Special)

    ....Why is Doc's Ftilt ranked below Mario's? It's literally the same move but Doc's does 1% more. Wario's ftilt in B tier... Yup that's a r/smashbros list
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    Official 4BR Tier List v2.0 - Competitive Impressions

    Wario's results were better than before though, I'm curious why he'd move down yet Link/Zard/Shulk/Samus would move up. I don't disagree with Wario moving down, but if that's the case I'm not sure why a lot of the characters you're advocating rise should do so.
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